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Damn 22LR ammo hoarders are still out there - idiots!
« on: May 09, 2019, 09:56:49 AM »
Went to Wallyworld early this morning for some lacquer thinner to paint up a fender for a buddy. He wants acrylic lacquer, and I didn't have enough thinner on hand to do the job and the clean up. Anyway, while I was standing in line a few old guys (in their 60s/70s) rolled up in their SUVs and trucks and got in line waiting for the doors to open. Overhearing their conversation, it turns out that these dolts were "ammo hoarders". They canvass WalMart stores in a particular area and then buy up all the cheap 22LR (and some other calibers) to hoard and resell on the Web.

I struck up a conversation with one of the guys and feigned ignorance on ammo knowledge, and he gave me this huge lecture on how this group of guys do this two times a week in different locations across Northern Virginia. They and other members of "their team" (who go to other Walmart locations) buy every round of 22LR in the store when it opens, and then move on to other stores within that geographic area. By 9:00 AM they have cleaned out 5-10 Walmarts within a 20 mile radius. They then meet up for coffee and split the booty evenly among the team members, who then re-sell the stuff on the net for a profit. According to the guy I was talking to, they've been doing this for years.

You wonder why we had a 22LR ammo shortage for so long? It's jerks like this that are the main problem. No conspiracies, no manufacturing problems and no profiteering by the manufactures, but simply an artificial feeding frenzy created and based on political rumor and fueled by pure greed. These guys are some of the sorriest a$$holes I've met in a long time. They're probably all retired, and judging by their vehicles, doing financially very well in their retirement. The ammo hoarding and reselling business must be very good. I only hope that with 22LR stocks and prices coming back to realistic levels, these guys are sitting on huge stockpiles of expensive inventory and are forced to sell at a loss. I truly have a disdain for all the people in this group. 

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Offline john k

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Re: Damn 22LR ammo hoarders are still out there - idiots!
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2019, 10:11:28 AM »
I agree,  have run into a couple of them that always have plenty of ammo for sale.  If they keep it up,, will get burned sooner or later..  Cleaning out a store is just wrong. 

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Re: Damn 22LR ammo hoarders are still out there - idiots!
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2019, 10:13:52 AM »
During the awful period around here, I'd go to the local everything store on my way home almost every day and buy whatever I could get. It has returned to normal here now, so I only buy bricks when they are on sale.

Here is garbage thunderbolt for $135/5k shipped with code "freeship1". https://www.laxammo.com/rimfire/22-lr-ammo/remington-22-lr-40-gr-lrn-500-rds-tb22b-on-sale-no-limit-detail Online deals are beating the local stores and I don't have to stand at the counter with the ammo vultures.

I laugh when I see bricks at over $25 at the shows now. It's $18 in the store every day of the week and I don't have to pay admission. Plus screw those guys for wanting $75+ a brick when it was bad.

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Re: Damn 22LR ammo hoarders are still out there - idiots!
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2019, 10:25:53 AM »
During the awful period around here, I'd go to the local everything store on my way home almost every day and buy whatever I could get. It has returned to normal here now, so I only buy bricks when they are on sale.

Here is garbage thunderbolt for $135/5k shipped with code "freeship1". https://www.laxammo.com/rimfire/22-lr-ammo/remington-22-lr-40-gr-lrn-500-rds-tb22b-on-sale-no-limit-detail Online deals are beating the local stores and I don't have to stand at the counter with the ammo vultures.

I laugh when I see bricks at over $25 at the shows now. It's $18 in the store every day of the week and I don't have to pay admission. Plus screw those guys for wanting $75+ a brick when it was bad.

LOL -- Yeah, I've seen good pricing on 5K cases as well. Funny you said "Garbage Thunderbolt". I have a junk 22LR Sig Mosquito that I had to polish and tune to feed any kind of ammo consistently. Well it turns out that the one bulk ammo brand it will feed absolutely consistently is Rem. Thunderbolt. It's dirty as anything, but that Mosquito will run it all day long -- as long as I clean the chamber after every 200-300 rounds. It's weird -- but for some reason this gun works with that ammo.

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Re: Damn 22LR ammo hoarders are still out there - idiots!
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2019, 10:45:49 AM »
it killed our shooting. the boys and i used to head out to the junk pile to shoot cans, bottles and any other thing we could use for a target. it would be nothing to wipe out something close to a brick of 500. it would cost less than 15 bucks for good clean fun. i can't recall the last time we did that.

when we got down to the last few 100 rounds and couldn't find any ammo at any price it just wasn't that much fun anymore.

if those old codgers fell over and died today the world would be a better place. the damage done to our shooting heritage won't fully be understood for years. a whole generation of kids will have lost the skills and shooting confidence that can only be gained by the experience of  shooting a few  thousand rounds (or 10's of 1000's ) of .22 through a 10/22, single six or other classic firearm.
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Re: Damn 22LR ammo hoarders are still out there - idiots!
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2019, 10:48:47 AM »
The neighbor had an old JC Higgins pump 22 he was playing around with. Gave it a good scrub and took it to the range. He said he took a good selection of different flavored 22LR just for giggles. The thing ate up and loved the cheap stuff. It would bughole thunderbolts at 50 yds. A friend of his there had some $20/50 comp ammo and gave him 5 to try. He said it flung them over about 8" at 50. Just proves you can't always predict what guns will like to shoot.

My 10/22, on the other hand, misfires or jam loads about every 10th thunderbolt, won't group them for anything, and they gum the bore up like crazy. I'll hold off panic buying them so you ahve a fair chance to get some.  :)

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Re: Damn 22LR ammo hoarders are still out there - idiots!
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2019, 12:47:29 PM »
These people will get burnt eventually. The problem is now its the reverse of 7-8 years ago, now the lefties are gunning up, hording ammo, and buying MRE's. I was in a Acadamy sports in NC the other day where a Bernie bro (his tshirt was the proof) was buying 5ea 250 round boxes of 9mm.



I wanted to ask him if he would give me my fair share of his ammo  :))

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Re: Damn 22LR ammo hoarders are still out there - idiots!
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2019, 01:41:09 PM »
We had the same problem here with a group of guys hitting Wally Worlds in the area and buying up all the popular calibers and there was virtually none available. The shortages can be regional also. Back in 2010 the ammo situation sucked badly here but I had to go to L.A. to prep stuff for moving and do work on the commercial building. I went to one of my favorites stores down there and bought bricks of .22lr in wood cases for a cheap price. Went to a Wally World and bought a bunch of CCI 100rd boxes for $7.39/ea and hauled it all 400 miles home. The local store that had .22lr CCI was asking $18.99 per 100 rounds. I have never spent a penny in that stupid store.

There was no .22 shorts around here for a long time. A neighbor asked me to look for it whenever I went somewhere as he uses it to give ground squirrels their departure when he catches them in the live trap. Finally found some a year or so ago.

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Re: Damn 22LR ammo hoarders are still out there - idiots!
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2019, 02:44:16 PM »
A buddy of mine shoots 22's and has been griping for years about the situation. First it was short supply, then it was the hoarding. Last we talked he'd put away his 22 guns.  :(

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Re: Damn 22LR ammo hoarders are still out there - idiots!
« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2019, 05:47:42 PM »
That's damn horrible, it coul lead to Walmarts limiting how much one customer can buy.
It kind of makes me glad I'm still just shooting airguns.
I can shoot in my house or backyard, they're super quiet, and ammo is cheeper.
Plus I know my airguns are a deal more precise than most affordables .22 rifles.

I plan on getting a .22 at some point just to have ( hoping to find an old sears or Western field ...ect cheap at a pawn shop or something ) but Im not rightly sure where I could go to shoot it.
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Re: Damn 22LR ammo hoarders are still out there - idiots!
« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2019, 08:54:31 PM »
When ammo was scarce Walmart did limit 22 ammo to 2 boxes. The same guys here were doing the same thing. 22 Ammo now is  as cheap as you can get it now. All those folks who bought it was high and hoarded it are most likely pissed that they have all that expensive ammo.

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« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2019, 08:59:56 PM »
........... All those folks who bought it was high and hoarded it are most likely pissed that they have all that expensive ammo.

I sure hope so. I would love to see these guys take a financial bath from their idiotic crusade. I hope they choke on all that ammo.

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« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2019, 09:22:31 PM »
F* them guys. I don't mind if your a shooter and stock pile up because you will use them. But I don't care for resellers like that.

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« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2019, 10:27:53 PM »
I bought a couple of cases when they had the $20 rebates. I'm set for a long time now.

I carried a Marlin Glenfield in the truck till the hogs got bad around here. it thrived on cheap ammo. The only time it gave me problems was when I cleaned it. Then it would FTF, stovepipe rounds, misfeed rounds etc. So I just quit cleaning it ;D

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« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2019, 11:03:51 PM »
Sounds like you need a new feed throat for that Glenfield.

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« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2019, 07:57:32 AM »
I bought a couple of cases when they had the $20 rebates. I'm set for a long time now.

I carried a Marlin Glenfield in the truck till the hogs got bad around here. it thrived on cheap ammo. The only time it gave me problems was when I cleaned it. Then it would FTF, stovepipe rounds, misfeed rounds etc. So I just quit cleaning it ;D

What do you carry now? I had a 30-30 for hog patrol when I was in La.

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« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2019, 07:15:30 PM »
I started out with a 30-30 then went to a beatup ADL in 3006. but got tired of hauling off carcass' so I started using the SKS and now its the AR. the little bullets don't drop them on the spot so I don't have to dispose of them. I haven't had any hogs in the hayfield since the guys behind me started selling day hunts t the oilfield guys. They must have chased them all out of the river bottom. I don't hardly see any around down there now.

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« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2019, 08:04:30 PM »
F* them guys. I don't mind if your a shooter and stock pile up because you will use them. But I don't care for resellers like that.

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I shoot 4-5 times a week, only 22LR, usually 2000-3000 rounds a week,  so the 35k+ I have is okay??
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« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2019, 08:09:58 PM »
F* them guys. I don't mind if your a shooter and stock pile up because you will use them. But I don't care for resellers like that.

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I shoot 4-5 times a week, only 22LR, usually 2000-3000 rounds a week,  so the 35k+ I have is okay??
Would love to have that much free time to shoot!

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« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2019, 08:46:51 PM »
I could go through that much ammo if I had bought one of these when I had the chance.

https://binged.it/2HhL5hB

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« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2019, 10:03:18 AM »
I’m going through that much ammo, using Ruger Precision Rimfire, with is a bolt action, using the 10/22 style 10 shot rotary mags.
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« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2019, 10:44:28 AM »
I started out with a 30-30 then went to a beatup ADL in 3006. but got tired of hauling off carcass' so I started using the SKS and now its the AR. the little bullets don't drop them on the spot so I don't have to dispose of them. I haven't had any hogs in the hayfield since the guys behind me started selling day hunts t the oilfield guys. They must have chased them all out of the river bottom. I don't hardly see any around down there now.

We had several running around where we lived in La, which I found odd since we where pretty urban. I talked to the neighbors and they where cool with me "removing" them from the area. Nasty little bastards.

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« Reply #22 on: May 24, 2019, 10:42:18 AM »
I could go through that much ammo if I had bought one of these when I had the chance.

https://binged.it/2HhL5hB

That's a toy -- LOL, but this thing was once for sale (in semi - form) to the general public. What an awesome SMG -- I bet with this thing even the "22LR is not a good defensive round" crowd would eat their collective words. It's called the "American 180" -- cool!


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« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2019, 09:23:12 AM »
Went to the same Walmart yesterday to pick up some paint brushes, and when I walked past the sporting goods section, there was ammunition everywhere. Literally cases of it, and especially 22LR.

To put it in perspective; my Walmart is in a small strip mall, and unlike in rural areas, they don't sell firearms.....BUT they do stock ammunition. This is typical of the close-in DC suburb PC culture that sees all guns as evil; Walmart caters to the wishes of the loudest anti-gun voices in mostly Democrat districts. They never stocked ammo in huge quantities (except shotgun bird shot), but this week the dam must have broken open at the warehouse because it was everywhere -- and it was relatively cheap. Federal 525 rd bulk packs for $19 -- that's less than $0.04/rd. I'm glad to see it finally happen.

I think this will be the end of the ammo hoarder "brotherhood" in my neck of the woods. I hope those old jerks are forced to sell their collective inventories at a huge loss. Karma!!!!

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« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2019, 10:39:01 AM »
Wow, I haven't heard of a price like that for a long time. I take it you are well stocked now.

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« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2019, 11:06:07 AM »
Wow, I haven't heard of a price like that for a long time. I take it you are well stocked now.

I actually didn't buy any since I have a lot left over from stocks that we bought back in the mid-2000s when we were teaching NRA youth classes. At that time Remington offered case-discounts to NRA instructors and shooting organizations. I don't shoot a lot of 22LR anymore, but if I ever get a piece of land out in the country -- I'm going to greatly enjoy that aspect (plinking) of the hobby again.

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« Reply #26 on: June 25, 2019, 07:34:05 PM »
Thanks for the reminder Ray, I need to pick up some 22 and go plink some steel

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« Reply #27 on: June 26, 2019, 08:04:34 AM »
Thanks for the reminder Ray, I need to pick up some 22 and go plink some steel

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Yes, that boy of yours will be joining you in a just few years -- what a fun time that will be. I'm glad the supply is back to reasonable levels, because quite a few friends of mine had pretty much given up on 22LR. One of my work colleagues sold all but one of his .22 rifles a few years ago because he couldn't justify the cost of the ammunition anymore. Sad to see ---

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« Reply #28 on: June 30, 2019, 02:04:41 PM »
I hoarded some more yesterday before our lovely new UN-CONSTITUTIONAL law requiring background checks when buying ammo kicks in tomorrow.

 >:(  >:(  >:(
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« Reply #29 on: June 30, 2019, 03:13:45 PM »
I hoarded some more yesterday before our lovely new UN-CONSTITUTIONAL law requiring background checks when buying ammo kicks in tomorrow.

 >:(  >:(  >:(

Yes, I guess from now on you have to become part of the "collective" to get ammo. Imagine if you post something on social media that the "State" doesn't agree with; now you're labeled as a promoter of hate speech, and your purchase of ammo or firearms will be prohibited. -- This is the scenario that the bureaucrats and politicians in CA are actively pursuing.

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« Reply #30 on: July 02, 2019, 02:25:30 PM »
Yeah, along with trying to make gas unaffordable so we have to give up our vehicles; abolishing natural gas and going all-electric (this is in the works - https://www.ecom-energy.com/electrification-bills-ab-3001-ab-3232/?fbclid=IwAR1lUvQB3ma1Vke1hClxP5AdrvEUTosGGmfEam-t_gUE4-FxvQvbWAAVC1k); herding everyone out of the rural areas and into the cities so they have us under their thumbs, and a LOT more.

 >:(

There is a movement up here to split the state (https://soj51.org/), but I'm afraid it won't fly, though I hope it does.

I think pushback is coming sooner rather than later.
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« Reply #31 on: July 02, 2019, 09:13:27 PM »
A lot of true upstate NYers wished that NYC and LI was another state
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« Reply #32 on: July 02, 2019, 09:41:43 PM »
It's not just NYC and LI. NY has a lot of dumbasses in it everywhere.

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« Reply #33 on: December 26, 2019, 12:41:54 PM »
It's not just NYC and LI. NY has a lot of dumbasses in it everywhere.

Please realize that dumb asses are a universal occurrence. Take Elroy for example :-*

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« Reply #34 on: December 26, 2019, 01:30:09 PM »
It's not just NYC and LI. NY has a lot of dumbasses in it everywhere.

Please realize that dumb asses are a universal occurrence. Take Elroy for example :-*

I wouldn't consider Elroy a dumb ass, but rather a very insightful and informed student of human nature.