Anyone being affected by the shutdown?

[bonneyman]

Well they're starting to shut down some of the National Parks around town. A few are staying open, with volunteers picking up trash and cleaning restrooms. But several were on the news closing because they had about 2 weeks worth of operating funds and now that's exhausted.
Thankfully most of the parks are desert landscaping so I don't think a lack of human activity is gonna affect them much.

Heck I say keep the gov shut down. Eventually high salary folks will start missing their checks and start sqwaking. Of course they'll probably blame Trump but who cares who's "fault" it is? If you ain't getting paid you won't care - you'll be calling the Dems demanding things get reopened.
I think Trump has the leverage here. Pelsoi and Schumer wouldn't be pushing to fund everything else - making all these empty pleas to help furloughed people - if they weren't afraid. "We can talk about the wall later" they say. Bunk! Keep the pressure on!

[walrus]

Hell, I got employees making a 40 hour check driving for Uber because they cant afford the fricking insurance cut. and they aren't laid off, furloughed or anything else. too bad your wifes friends are having to work to make ends meet, join the crowd,

They are working, they aren't getting paid for it

[bonneyman]

Hell, I got employees making a 40 hour check driving for Uber because they cant afford the fricking insurance cut. and they aren't laid off, furloughed or anything else. too bad your wifes friends are having to work to make ends meet, join the crowd,

They are working, they aren't getting paid for it

I'm sorry that innocent Joe's have to take the bulk of the suffering. If the Dems gave Trump his chump change the gov would open back up as usual - and the wall would get started. Making us all safer.

[Lookin4_67GalaxieConv]

Did the democrats, or did they not, approve a border wall in 2006 to be constructed along at least part of the Mexican border?  Well, time to fund it.  This partial shutdown needs to go on as long as necessary for President Trump to get his 5.6 billion dollars.  It's that simple.  I could give a sh/t if people are furloughed, have to work for free, whatever.  No more excuses.

[Matt_T]

My wife has co workers driving uber now. You guys that think folks won't be hurt by this are full of it. Some federal workers make diddly squat and are living paycheck to paycheck like many folks n the US. Sure they get good bennies and thats why most do it but they ain't getting rich.

Living check to check is a lifestyle choice which has little to do with income level. A very risky one when your employer is bordering on bankrupt and has cashflow problems

And if they're driving uber they have a half decent car and a smartphone so they ain't poor.

[slip knot]

Hell, I got employees making a 40 hour check driving for Uber because they cant afford the fricking insurance cut. and they aren't laid off, furloughed or anything else. too bad your wifes friends are having to work to make ends meet, join the crowd,

They are working, they aren't getting paid for it

They are currently working without pay? I thought they were sending folks home. No way I'd work for free. I assume they plan on back pay?

[Uncle Buck]

Hell, I got employees making a 40 hour check driving for Uber because they cant afford the fricking insurance cut. and they aren't laid off, furloughed or anything else. too bad your wifes friends are having to work to make ends meet, join the crowd,

They are working, they aren't getting paid for it

They are currently working without pay? I thought they were sending folks home. No way I'd work for free. I assume they plan on back pay?

They always get the pay for the time, no one loses a cent. They are just not paid during the time of the shutdown, which I can see being a bit of a problem, but sadly, it is just part of what it will take to knuckle the Dems under.

[skfarmer]

not taking a side here but i know for a fact the people in the local fsa (farm service agency)office are not working and will not get paid.

[walrus]

Hell, I got employees making a 40 hour check driving for Uber because they cant afford the fricking insurance cut. and they aren't laid off, furloughed or anything else. too bad your wifes friends are having to work to make ends meet, join the crowd,

They are working, they aren't getting paid for it

They are currently working without pay? I thought they were sending folks home. No way I'd work for free. I assume they plan on back pay?

Yes, essential personnel have to work during the shutdown. They will get back pay once settled but I doubt the bank takes an IOU for house payment or car payment or in some case just to put gas in the car to get to work. 

According to their labor agreement that can't even look for another  job without permission from management and guess what? Management is furloughed so can't ask.

[fatfillup]

Sadly, about 70% of the US lives paycheck to paycheck or close to it.   I agree with Matt that it has nothing to do with income level, rather lifestyle choices and again sadly, the credit industry encourages it.  And our government lives the same way so it is modeled for everyone to see. 

And both sides are to blame as neither has the courage to quit spending to keep themselves in power.  Whether social programs or military spending or corporate welfare, we as a country need to live within our means as should everyone else. 

[mrchuck]

No paycheck will start affecting many workers now.
I'm retired Federal, but will not effect me and Donna, as we have savings.
I sincerely hope that Nancy Pelosi and Charles Shumer catch HELL for doing this. The Democratic Party is now 100% Socialist in their beliefs and act like Communists. I've got old scars from fighting Communist regimes many years ago.
So, I am a Conservative politically. And I like Trump.

[skfarmer]

i honestly believe the vast majority of americans believe in a strong border and have no real issues with a wall, fence or whatever you want to call it.  even if they don't like trump. i am starting to think when the people start getting tired of this it will be the democrats who get egg on their face and put pressure on the dems to give on this one issue.

i already know of farmers whose ag loans are due who are going to have to pay interest in penalties. you just can't drop a check in the mail to cover it. if your grain is under loan, you can't move it, haul it  or even sell it to settle your loan without permission.

just to set the record straight, i do not have a ccc grain loan. i have never had one and more than likely never will. i don't like the system but it is a tool that many use.

[Lookin4_67GalaxieConv]

I sincerely hope that Nancy Pelosi and Charles Shumer catch HELL for doing this. The Democratic Party is now 100% Socialist in their beliefs and act like Communists. I've got old scars from fighting Communist regimes many years ago.
So, I am a Conservative politically. And I like Trump.

I wouldn't get your hopes up much, the US media will cover for them as much as possible.

[bonneyman]

I sincerely hope that Nancy Pelosi and Charles Shumer catch HELL for doing this. The Democratic Party is now 100% Socialist in their beliefs and act like Communists. I've got old scars from fighting Communist regimes many years ago.
So, I am a Conservative politically. And I like Trump.

I wouldn't get your hopes up much, the US media will cover for them as much as possible.

Yeah I'm sure that everybody will start blaming Trump. The liberal media will not slime the Dems. At least he stays on the job, visits the troops, and makes offers to meet. The Dems go to Hawaii and do photo ops. When the pain really starts to hit maybe just maybe the liberal hide will crack and start hitting Pelosi and Schumer.

After all, Pelosi said she has as much power as the President, so........

[DeadNutz]

When Pelosi got the gavel back, the look on her face was like she was thinking about what she could bang with that gavel.