So are you voting for a candidate, or against the opposing one

[fatfillup]

Don't care what side of the aisle you are on, are you voting for your guy or against the other party.  I think a lot of folks are voting against the other party and not necessarily for "their" guy.  That is truly a sad commentary on where we are as a country politically speaking.

I know I am voting against liberalism and especially progressivism.  Don't care for the way Trump conducts himself but sure as hell can't vote for Biden.  Sadly, my vote won't count in Maryland as it is a solidly blue state where all electoral votes go to the popular winner which will be Biden here.

And I have to believe a lot of folks are voting against Trump not for Biden as he seems to have mental issues that should give anyone concern to vote for him.

[highland512]

My #1 issue is this virus deal, politicians making knee jerk reactions have made this way worse than it needed to be. The economy has to open back up unrestricted........now!!! We cannot go on like this, small business will not survive. NO MORE LOCK DOWNS!!!!!!!!

I am also voting against what I see as one of the major problems our country has, career politicians.
The founders intended for the job of representatives be something that the everyday citizen would be elected to. Not spend 47+ years sucking of the tit of the tax payer while selling them down river while doing it. Is Trump a sleez bag with a big mouth? Absolutely. Do I think he loves this country and will fight for? Yes. Do I think he is taking back room deals and making deals with china through his kids? No, why would he? He is already wealthy.

Trump also has not gotten us into any new wars, why this is not brought up more I dont know. I am 32 years old, every president I can remember (bush, clinton, bush, obama) has started a new conflict. I am 99.74% certain Biden (if he completes a full term) will involve us in a conflict somewhere new.
 

[Der Bugmeister]

The issue I find up here in Canada is that the system supporting career politicians, cronyism and the backroom/old boys network has resulted in a lack of good choices in "leaders".  We just had a provincial election up here (like the state election sorta I guess) and I found myself having to vote tactically for a party I don't normally support in order to try and prevent another party I can never support from gaining ground.  It was a 3 party campaign and none of the parties presented platforms or leaders I could get behind. 

I think all the smart, common sense leaders are smart enough and have the common sense to stay out of politics, so guess who we're left with?

[slip knot]

This may be the first time I’ve ever voted for someone. 2016 it was voting the lesser of two evils but Trump has proven himself to me as a much better candidate than I expected. I will be voting for him this time.

[DeadNutz]

For the 2nd time in 4 years we are faced with the choice of Trump or the destruction of our republic as we know it. The left tries to say it is the fault of Trump for the Wuhan Virus but the fact is he did the job he should have. If Trump had decided to issue lockdown orders the left would of howled about a dictator. Trump knew the states were responsible for actions to be taken and he did his job by making sure states got ventilators and PPE and other supplies. Hopefully Operation Warp Speed will pay off with a vaccine in the near future and we can get past this.

The economy was doing fantastic before the Wuhan Virus and Trump knows how to get it restored to great levels again. It will take time to recover from the loss of businesses such as restaurants and service industry companies due to the shutdowns. Under Biden or Harris the economy will not recover.

[bonneyman]

The issue I find up here in Canada is that the system supporting career politicians, cronyism and the backroom/old boys network has resulted in a lack of good choices in "leaders".  We just had a provincial election up here (like the state election sorta I guess) and I found myself having to vote tactically for a party I don't normally support in order to try and prevent another party I can never support from gaining ground.  It was a 3 party campaign and none of the parties presented platforms or leaders I could get behind. 

I think all the smart, common sense leaders are smart enough and have the common sense to stay out of politics, so guess who we're left with?

Yeah, well it's the same way here in the states! Anybody with any sense stays far away from politics. i wish we could get good people in there, but it is what it is.

I find the same scenario going on in the job market. All sorts of places are advertising for workers - the same employers, week after week. HVAC especially. Why? Because all the good techs have jobs are getting paid what they feel they're worth, and happy where they're at. So the only ones left to apply for these jobs are the unskilled/looking to get paid while you train me and then I'll leave. Because - with more training and experience - I can now get more somewhere else than you're willing to pay me. So employers get stuck always being in training mode, which is costly. Soooo they've stopped training. But don't offer enough money to get - and keep - good people. The situation is critical, and it ain't getting any better.
I'm afraid once the current journeymen retire we're going to be in an emergency situation.

[highland512]

The issue I find up here in Canada is that the system supporting career politicians, cronyism and the backroom/old boys network has resulted in a lack of good choices in "leaders".  We just had a provincial election up here (like the state election sorta I guess) and I found myself having to vote tactically for a party I don't normally support in order to try and prevent another party I can never support from gaining ground.  It was a 3 party campaign and none of the parties presented platforms or leaders I could get behind. 

I think all the smart, common sense leaders are smart enough and have the common sense to stay out of politics, so guess who we're left with?

Yeah, well it's the same way here in the states! Anybody with any sense stays far away from politics. i wish we could get good people in there, but it is what it is.

I find the same scenario going on in the job market. All sorts of places are advertising for workers - the same employers, week after week. HVAC especially. Why? Because all the good techs have jobs are getting paid what they feel they're worth, and happy where they're at. So the only ones left to apply for these jobs are the unskilled/looking to get paid while you train me and then I'll leave. Because - with more training and experience - I can now get more somewhere else than you're willing to pay me. So employers get stuck always being in training mode, which is costly. Soooo they've stopped training. But don't offer enough money to get - and keep - good people. The situation is critical, and it ain't getting any better.
I'm afraid once the current journeymen retire we're going to be in an emergency situation.

Its not just HVAC, good luck trying to find a concrete finisher or a rod buster or guys with any mechanical construction experience. To many snowflakes that have been told far to long to go to college and get a degree. Meanwhile bubba over here entered into the trades and is making close to six figures and has no college debt. 

My wife and I had the discussion the other day and we are leaning towards not pushing our kids to go to college, I found a job in my field of study and enjoy it but did I need to go to college? Nope. Looking back I could be where I am now without 4.5 years in college and I wish I had not gone. 

[pep]

  I'm one of those Chumps & and damn proud of it .

Simple answer for the obvious Voted for Donald Trump.

 Phil :
"I think a lot of folks are voting against the other party and not necessarily for "their" guy."

Not so Trump is my guy, was/is exactly what has been and continues to be good for the country.

Someone saying they are voting for the lesser of two evils. Says that person  lacks confidence and the ability to make and own their decisions .

 And always the victim .

[DeadNutz]

Today is Hillary's birthday and it got me to thinking about 2016. Had she won the election she would have appointed 3 liberal judges to the Supreme Court. I shudder just thinking about that and how bad this would have been for this nation. There is no question that we need Trump as much now as we did in 2016.

By the way, congrats to ACB on her confirmation and swearing in to the seat on SCOTUS.

[Lookin4_67GalaxieConv]

Today is Hillary's birthday and it got me to thinking about 2016. Had she won the election she would have appointed 3 liberal judges to the Supreme Court. I shudder just thinking about that and how bad this would have been for this nation. There is no question that we need Trump as much now as we did in 2016.

By the way, congrats to ACB on her confirmation and swearing in to the seat on SCOTUS.

ACB getting confirmed makes it a great day.  Having this happen on the devil's birthday makes it even better!

[walrus]

And I have to believe a lot of folks are voting against Trump not for Biden as he seems to have mental issues that should give anyone concern to vote for him.

Both have mental issues? I'm voting libertarian like I always do. Both major party candidates suck.

Senate race, the Dems must have figured they could pick up a senate seat in Maine, Collins made a major political mistake by hitching her caboose to the Trump Train. 100 million bucks spent on this race( 174,000 bucks a year job costs 70 million?). Collins opponent Gideon has raised 70 million dollars, the amount of radio, TV, social media, print ads bashing both candidates has been so fucking obnoxious I can't even watch the local news without getting pissed off by them. Worst campaign I've ever seen in Maine. All bashing no talk about platform.  Its going to be close but I'd say Gideon pushes Collins out the door and Maine officially turns into a blue state. Just so you know Gideon is swarmy piece of crap.

[pep]

And I have to believe a lot of folks are voting against Trump not for Biden as he seems to have mental issues that should give anyone concern to vote for him.

Both have mental issues? I'm voting libertarian like I always do. Both major party candidates suck.

Senate race, the Dems must have figured they could pick up a senate seat in Maine, Collins made a major political mistake by hitching her caboose to the Trump Train. 100 million bucks spent on this race( 174,000 bucks a year job costs 70 million?). Collins opponent Gideon has raised 70 million dollars, the amount of radio, TV, social media, print ads bashing both candidates has been so fucking obnoxious I can't even watch the local news without getting pissed off by them. Worst campaign I've ever seen in Maine. All bashing no talk about platform.  Its going to be close but I'd say Gideon pushes Collins out the door and Maine officially turns into a blue state. Just so you know Gideon is swarmy piece of crap.

I really do not understand the logic at work here. Does it really matter how or what you think of ones persona. Their ability to lead do their job, seems SO very much more important.

I make the case, Trump as your president, cut your taxes. Every time you pump gas you are seeing more results.

With all the rest of his actions over the past 4 years. He has effectively raised everyones standard of living, an estimated 6k. So doing the math you  and I have received 24k to date form some one you do not like.

I bet you don't like your boss, yet he throws you a bone each year. Bet it does not approach 6k at the years end .......... and yet you go to work everyday and hang in there ?

I do agree with the assessment of the over all picture of our government. However all your words and puffing, making up an excuse as to why you're wasting your vote. To be clear not helping anyone, especially you or you family.

Just like the government you find so much fault with.  That kick the can down the road, unable to make decisions or act.

You are practicing the same sin. There is most definitely a right and wrong between these two candidates.

Do other a favor, don't bother to vote, make room in line for others .

Two people in a boat rowing in different directions The boat just circles, never getting anywhere.

Good luck

[coolmercury]

Politics make me sick, but there is no choice unless your are a budding socialist or a communist, you have to vote for TRUMP!!

[muddy]

To answer Phil's question, both. I don't believe my guys the greatest choice but I believe in him enough to put a checkmark next to his name. Also I fear the future with the other one so I'm voting against him.

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