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TOOLS AND THE SHOP => ANTIQUE/COLLECTOR TOOLS/BOXES/HAND ONLY => Topic started by: bmwrd0 on September 26, 2018, 05:03:13 PM
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I picked this up about six months ago, saw an estate sale sign, thought I would stop in. Went straight to the garage and there were actually good tools there, but I spotted this under a table and knew it was coming home with me. Also picked up a Volvo adjustable by Bahco, the one with the tire lever on the end.
(http://i67.tinypic.com/15d0ztj.jpg)
It is not the right breaker bar, it is missing the 3/4 socket and I am not sure which deep sockets it should have (looks to be missing one, with a newer backfill) But if you pull up the tray you get this
(http://i68.tinypic.com/11ipm6d.jpg)
Both speeders! And a few DBE's.
So, while I have a few more nice set, what do you have?
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Nice set! Box looks to be in nice shape and the set looks almost new in the pix. I like the short speeder.
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Whats the brand on that set?
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Its a Williams #26 from about the end of the war.
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Wow, that's quite a set. you did most excellent on that one. That ones a steal regardless of what you paid. ;D
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Wow, that's quite a set. you did most excellent on that one. That ones a steal regardless of what you paid. ;D
Well, it was YOUR next child! But really it was one of those "Well, it aint cheap, but I have the cash in my pocket..." situations.
Then again, my old man used to wander around on weekends with a couple grand in his pocket in case there were guns...
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Here's my Bonney SAE set.
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Nice set. Did you cut the foam? I like the way you did it if you did.
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Nice set. Did you cut the foam? I like the way you did it if you did.
Sure did! That's an older Bonney box i modded for 1/2" drive use.
I wanted the three 20" extensions to fit in the box, so made a shelf-like tray with handles to hold them just right, with all the rest of the accessories below. Needed 60" to reach to the bottom of air conditioners to break loose the compressor bolts. Most newer condensing units are 4-5 feet deep!
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I was wondering about the extensions. Excellent setup. The tray is neat too - well done sir!
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Here is my wartime Plomb 5400-OC 1/2” drive set that ended up with plenty of extras.
-Don
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Very nice d42. Enviable collection you have.
What is the ratchet shown on the first ad? It looks like a round head on my screen but never seen a Plomb roundie.
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Some real 1/2" gold there guys!
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Very nice d42. Enviable collection you have.
What is the ratchet shown on the first ad? It looks like a round head on my screen but never seen a Plomb roundie.
Thanks. I think it’s the ratchet that’s in my set that looks round due to the angle of the illustration. That’s pretty much the only one they were making during that time frame.
-Don
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That ratchet is awesome and I figured it was correct but the illustration was confusing. You have all three which to me a major coup! That trio belongs in SK's triple play thread http://garagegazette.com/index.php?topic=427.0
I have one 1/4 - well two one has a female drive with removable plug and one with the drive lug fixed.
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More goodness form d42jeep. man you got some nice sets.
we've seen some of the 1/4s and 1/2ers. I'm betting theirs some 3/8 sets to droll over too.
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Not many matched anything in my garage. But found this a few years back. All Husky, know its missing some things, for some reason the previous owner didn't ever use the ratchet. He electro penciled it anyhow. The tools and sockets don't show anywhere near the wear that the box got.
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Matching 1950’s Proto LOs Angeles 1/2 and 1/4 sets.
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That is very nice and looks almost new. I like that it includes the 1/4 set.
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More goodness form d42jeep. man you got some nice sets.
we've seen some of the 1/4s and 1/2ers. I'm betting theirs some 3/8 sets to droll over too.
Thanks! It’s possible that some 3/8” sets snuck into these pictures along with the others!
-Don
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Very enviable sets.
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d42 I am beginning to see a pattern here. You have some very desirable stuff and it's pretty amazing you've been able to find it all.
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Thanks, guys. Most of my sets have started with estate sale, garage sale or flea market finds. For me the fun is in completing the sets. Here is one I’m working on now. Late one afternoon this summer I spotted a Craigslist garage sale ad mentioning tools so the neighbors and I ran to town to check it it about 4:00. It was the typical bunch of crap but the seller’s toolbox was sitting out and I talked him into showing me his tools. They were all pretty modern but I told him I was into old stuff and he mentioned that he had inherited a Snap-on set from his father recently and offered to show it to me, but he didn’t want to sell it. It turned out to be a fairly complete 1/2” drive late ‘40s New Britain set. He was surprised and disappointed to find out it wasn’t Snap-on so I said I was interested in buying it if he wanted to let it go. He took down my phone number. In the meantime my neighbor found a $2.00 test light and the guy had a chance to think about my offer and with a TINY bit of urging decided to sell me his inheritance. Here are some pictures. The first one is as found and the last ones I took yesterday.
-Don


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I wasn’t sure whether to post this set in the 1/2” or 3/8” thread but I figured since the ratchet is 1/2” drive that it belonged here. It came with the original cardboard insert and looked virtually unused.
-Don
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Okay not a half inch drive set, but a set of half inch drive sockets. Full set of SK polished sockets, almost no wear, only 4 had any dirt in them. Actually got two sets, 3/8 - 1-1/4, one never used and one that's been used hard. Found in a junk store in an old shoe box. Thought it was amazing that a good quality set of sockets sat unused for decades, always felt the finish on these SK was better than any others sold at that time. Haven't looked to see what the period set would look like.
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Those look great. Early this summer my neighbor brought me a nice batch of knurled S-K sockets that look very similar to yours. Here they are after cleaning. He knows I dig S-K. Here are some sets those sockets might have come in.
-Don
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Here’s a 1950’s P&C set. The inside logo is dirty, but intact.
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Well, if we are gonna go all P&C on us...
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1905/31338406078_eaec890c59_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PKgwjb)20180723_141442 (https://flic.kr/p/PKgwjb) by Aaron Warfield (https://www.flickr.com/photos/159824424@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1909/45212063251_76ec294361_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bTeDeV)20180723_141432 (https://flic.kr/p/2bTeDeV) by Aaron Warfield (https://www.flickr.com/photos/159824424@N06/), on Flickr
This one is from the '40's, so I got that going for me, which is nice...
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Sweet bmwrdo!
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Here are a few more from the Empire of Proto
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1913/44301153175_4320dab91c_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2auJZpM)
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1943/44301126175_cf699ce3f9_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2auJRog)
Proto LA, pieced together over the years.
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1939/45212159561_f146e09bfe_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bTf8Sr)
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1944/44301144345_3b1a8eb069_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2auJWMx)
Wartime set, never got around to cleaning it. Bought that one complete for a rediculously amount of money ($3) I couldn't believe the guy either.
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1921/31338676878_50cc18369c_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PKhUP9)
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1920/45162111022_afd4623917_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bNPCbA)
Sorry, it is hard to take pictures of things that are so shiny... I couldn't believe it either when I opened it up. Mostly unused.
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Very nice.
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As you can imagine, I’m liking those green box Plomb sets!
-Don
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An old Craftsman BE set I picked up. the box is almost cooler than the set. This is one of my long term projects. I cant decide if I want to restore it or just preserve it. its pretty crusty tho.
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The actual set. ;D
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That BE ratchet is a real war horse. I had one and when I got it it was just about solid. Took it apart and cleaned out all the hardened grease a little cleaning and some new grease and it was amazing. I gave it to a friend eventually.
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Slip knot, that set is so cool.
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unbelievably the ratchets smooth as silk. but everything has a lot of finish wear. kinda like the box.
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Here is a Craftsman estate sale find that has since moved on to a new home.
-Don
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These Duro-Indestro sets are desirable to WW2 toolset collectors because they come with most of the D-I sockets to complete a General Mechanics Tool Set commonly referred to as a GMTK. They were also purchased by the Navy as can be seen from the NAF catalog listing. Here are mine.
-Don
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Very nice Don!
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Okay not a half inch drive set, but a set of half inch drive sockets. Full set of SK polished sockets, almost no wear, only 4 had any dirt in them. Actually got two sets, 3/8 - 1-1/4, one never used and one that's been used hard. Found in a junk store in an old shoe box. Thought it was amazing that a good quality set of sockets sat unused for decades, always felt the finish on these SK was better than any others sold at that time. Haven't looked to see what the period set would look like.
I always favored that style of SK sockets and wanted a set too.
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An old Craftsman BE set I picked up. the box is almost cooler than the set. This is one of my long term projects. I cant decide if I want to restore it or just preserve it. its pretty crusty tho.
Restore it!
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Very nice Don!
Thanks. I added crossbars to the sets because I feel like they should have come with them since the extensions have crossbar holes.
-Dom
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Here is a Powr-Kraft set I found at an estate sale earlier in the year in Lafayette, CA. The wrenches were supplied by Barcalo and the other tools by Wright. It turns out that the original owner lived close to my summer home.
-Don
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Here is a different 1/2 inch drive set that I picked up cheap a few years ago. Works great around propane tanks etc. Ampco, the none sparking tool co.
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Here is a different 1/2 inch drive set that I picked up cheap a few years ago. Works great around propane tanks etc. Ampco, the none sparking tool co.
Very interesting.
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Here is a Craftsman =v= 1/2” drive set that I found in what I believe to be it’s original box. It was missing a few pieces which I had sitting around. It came with a nice =v= DOE wrench set in the bag. It’s not in great shape but would be a good user set.
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Here is the wrench set and a couple more pictures.
-Don
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Here is the wrench set and a couple more pictures.
-Don
That would be an excellent user set.
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That is the original box.
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Yeah, I thought so. Here is what it looked like when I brought it home.
-Don
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Yeah, I thought so. Here is what it looked like when I brought it home.
-Don
It strikes me as odd that the box was silver or gray on the outside and red on the inside. I would have expected silver or gray, both inside and outside. I do think it is an original Cman box though.
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Nice the way you completed the set, Don! 8)
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Nice the way you completed the set, Don! 8)
Agreed, but add a U-joint! ;)
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So I'm not sure where this should go, as it has a bunch of matching sockets in 1/2 and 3/8 drive. It should have a bunch of other bits in it, like drive tools etc. but they were long gone, except for a Ferret sliding T handle (not pictured) and a 3/8 universal that is very rusty and as loose as a universal can get without being disassembled. It had a bunch of other interesting junk in it, though including a Plomb WF-21 rat in 3/8, a Plomb 5262 12" extension in 3/8, and a bunch of random WF Plomb sockets in 9/32 and 3/8 drive. It also had a large flat head prybar...screwdriver marked Massey Harris USA (I gave to my dad, looked like a Pratt-Read).
A lot of the 1/2 drive sockets look like they had a pipe wrench or channel locks on the O.D., all chewed up. Still pretty cool, though. I've used them a few times in a pinch with no issues, except sockets lack any detent. I bought this a number of years ago for $20 wanting the box only (not knowing then it was basically a tool collector's starter kit :D :D :D ). But the partial set of sockets, sliding T, and universal are all dated '34 or '35, which I thought was cool.
Box measures approx. 20"×7"×3"
As shown, it is overflow 1/2 drive storage. Most of the sockets in the trays came with, (lots of random USA brand fill ins). Everything else has been added.
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Nice the way you completed the set, Don! 8)
Agreed, but add a U-joint! ;)
Okay. I checked the Craftsman stash and there was one in there. I also put the crossbar back in that I had immediately robbed out of the set.
-Don
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It's a nice set -- what sizes are the three deep sockets? I don't think deep sockets originally were part of the set --
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They are 13/16”, 7/8”, 15/16” and 1”. Pretty useful sizes and they seemed to fit in with the set as extras. The 13/16” could double up as a spark plug socket.
-Don
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So I'm not sure where this should go, as it has a bunch of matching sockets in 1/2 and 3/8 drive. It should have a bunch of other bits in it, like drive tools etc. but they were long gone, except for a Ferret sliding T handle (not pictured) and a 3/8 universal that is very rusty and as loose as a universal can get without being disassembled. It had a bunch of other interesting junk in it, though including a Plomb WF-21 rat in 3/8, a Plomb 5262 12" extension in 3/8, and a bunch of random WF Plomb sockets in 9/32 and 3/8 drive. It also had a large flat head prybar...screwdriver marked Massey Harris USA (I gave to my dad, looked like a Pratt-Read).
A lot of the 1/2 drive sockets look like they had a pipe wrench or channel locks on the O.D., all chewed up. Still pretty cool, though. I've used them a few times in a pinch with no issues, except sockets lack any detent. I bought this a number of years ago for $20 wanting the box only (not knowing then it was basically a tool collector's starter kit :D :D :D ). But the partial set of sockets, sliding T, and universal are all dated '34 or '35, which I thought was cool.
Box measures approx. 20"×7"×3"
As shown, it is overflow 1/2 drive storage. Most of the sockets in the trays came with, (lots of random USA brand fill ins). Everything else has been added.
You gotta use what you've got.
Heck, my old refurbed S-K box is full of Bonney and Craftsman. :-[
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1/2" Gedore set, 8-28 MM
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Wow that is nice. Quite different but very cool.
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Here is a Thorsen 1/2” deep set that was made for a military contract.
-Don
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Here is a Craftsman -vv- 1/2” drive Metric socket set.
-Don
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1/2" Fleet set I got for $10
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Beautiful Fleet set -- classic!
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Gang,
I like Fleet tools, especially their smoooooth ratchets. The Fleet tools are different than the other Plomb/Proto tools. Where did Fleet fit into the Plomb/Proto mix? Was Fleet originally an independent tool company that Plomb/Proto acquired but couldn't really standardize and integrate?
Your thoughts...
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I always thought Fleet had some connection to Monty Wards. But I have no evidence.
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AA has a pretty good write up on the subject. It has to do with the purchase of Bog.
http://alloy-artifacts.org/proto-empire.html#penens
-Don