Author Topic: 1/2" sets... (Read 26326 times)

bmwrd0 · « **on:** September 26, 2018, 05:03:13 PM »

I picked this up about six months ago, saw an estate sale sign, thought I would stop in. Went straight to the garage and there were actually good tools there, but I spotted this under a table and knew it was coming home with me. Also picked up a Volvo adjustable by Bahco, the one with the tire lever on the end.

It is not the right breaker bar, it is missing the 3/4 socket and I am not sure which deep sockets it should have (looks to be missing one, with a newer backfill) But if you pull up the tray you get this

Both speeders! And a few DBE's.

So, while I have a few more nice set, what do you have?

J.A.F.E. · « **Reply #1 on:** September 26, 2018, 05:33:37 PM »

Nice set! Box looks to be in nice shape and the set looks almost new in the pix. I like the short speeder.

jabberwoki · « **Reply #2 on:** September 26, 2018, 07:26:49 PM »

Whats the brand on that set?

bmwrd0 · « **Reply #3 on:** September 26, 2018, 07:44:08 PM »

Its a Williams #26 from about the end of the war.

slip knot · « **Reply #4 on:** September 26, 2018, 08:43:27 PM »

Wow, that's quite a set. you did most excellent on that one. That ones a steal regardless of what you paid.

bmwrd0 · « **Reply #5 on:** September 26, 2018, 09:12:46 PM »

Quote from: slip knot on September 26, 2018, 08:43:27 PM

Wow, that's quite a set. you did most excellent on that one. That ones a steal regardless of what you paid.

Well, it was YOUR next child! But really it was one of those "Well, it aint cheap, but I have the cash in my pocket..." situations.

Then again, my old man used to wander around on weekends with a couple grand in his pocket in case there were guns...

bonneyman · « **Reply #6 on:** September 26, 2018, 09:41:43 PM »

Here's my Bonney SAE set.

J.A.F.E. · « **Reply #7 on:** September 26, 2018, 09:56:59 PM »

Nice set. Did you cut the foam? I like the way you did it if you did.

bonneyman · « **Reply #8 on:** September 27, 2018, 01:54:45 PM »

Quote from: J.A.F.E. on September 26, 2018, 09:56:59 PM

Nice set. Did you cut the foam? I like the way you did it if you did.

Sure did! That's an older Bonney box i modded for 1/2" drive use.
I wanted the three 20" extensions to fit in the box, so made a shelf-like tray with handles to hold them just right, with all the rest of the accessories below. Needed 60" to reach to the bottom of air conditioners to break loose the compressor bolts. Most newer condensing units are 4-5 feet deep!

J.A.F.E. · « **Reply #9 on:** September 27, 2018, 04:57:31 PM »

I was wondering about the extensions. Excellent setup. The tray is neat too - well done sir!

d42jeep · « **Reply #10 on:** October 04, 2018, 04:08:43 PM »

Here is my wartime Plomb 5400-OC 1/2” drive set that ended up with plenty of extras.
-Don

J.A.F.E. · « **Reply #11 on:** October 04, 2018, 04:24:41 PM »

Very nice d42. Enviable collection you have.

What is the ratchet shown on the first ad? It looks like a round head on my screen but never seen a Plomb roundie.

Uncle Buck · « **Reply #12 on:** October 04, 2018, 04:29:05 PM »

Some real 1/2" gold there guys!

d42jeep · « **Reply #13 on:** October 04, 2018, 05:43:33 PM »

Quote from: J.A.F.E. on October 04, 2018, 04:24:41 PM

Very nice d42. Enviable collection you have.

What is the ratchet shown on the first ad? It looks like a round head on my screen but never seen a Plomb roundie.

Thanks. I think it’s the ratchet that’s in my set that looks round due to the angle of the illustration. That’s pretty much the only one they were making during that time frame.
-Don

J.A.F.E. · « **Reply #14 on:** October 04, 2018, 06:37:02 PM »

That ratchet is awesome and I figured it was correct but the illustration was confusing. You have all three which to me a major coup! That trio belongs in SK's triple play thread http://garagegazette.com/index.php?topic=427.0

I have one 1/4 - well two one has a female drive with removable plug and one with the drive lug fixed.

slip knot · « **Reply #15 on:** October 04, 2018, 09:05:03 PM »

More goodness form d42jeep. man you got some nice sets.

we've seen some of the 1/4s and 1/2ers. I'm betting theirs some 3/8 sets to droll over too.

john k · « **Reply #16 on:** October 04, 2018, 11:52:20 PM »

Not many matched anything in my garage. But found this a few years back. All Husky, know its missing some things, for some reason the previous owner didn't ever use the ratchet. He electro penciled it anyhow. The tools and sockets don't show anywhere near the wear that the box got.

Cruiser808 · « **Reply #17 on:** October 05, 2018, 01:30:59 AM »

Matching 1950’s Proto LOs Angeles 1/2 and 1/4 sets.

J.A.F.E. · « **Reply #18 on:** October 05, 2018, 01:57:58 AM »

That is very nice and looks almost new. I like that it includes the 1/4 set.

d42jeep · « **Reply #19 on:** October 06, 2018, 04:37:11 AM »

Quote from: slip knot on October 04, 2018, 09:05:03 PM

More goodness form d42jeep. man you got some nice sets.

we've seen some of the 1/4s and 1/2ers. I'm betting theirs some 3/8 sets to droll over too.

Thanks! It’s possible that some 3/8” sets snuck into these pictures along with the others!
-Don

Uncle Buck · « **Reply #20 on:** October 06, 2018, 06:15:46 AM »

Very enviable sets.

J.A.F.E. · « **Reply #21 on:** October 06, 2018, 02:39:38 PM »

d42 I am beginning to see a pattern here. You have some very desirable stuff and it's pretty amazing you've been able to find it all.

d42jeep · « **Reply #22 on:** October 06, 2018, 03:36:45 PM »

Thanks, guys. Most of my sets have started with estate sale, garage sale or flea market finds. For me the fun is in completing the sets. Here is one I’m working on now. Late one afternoon this summer I spotted a Craigslist garage sale ad mentioning tools so the neighbors and I ran to town to check it it about 4:00. It was the typical bunch of crap but the seller’s toolbox was sitting out and I talked him into showing me his tools. They were all pretty modern but I told him I was into old stuff and he mentioned that he had inherited a Snap-on set from his father recently and offered to show it to me, but he didn’t want to sell it. It turned out to be a fairly complete 1/2” drive late ‘40s New Britain set. He was surprised and disappointed to find out it wasn’t Snap-on so I said I was interested in buying it if he wanted to let it go. He took down my phone number. In the meantime my neighbor found a $2.00 test light and the guy had a chance to think about my offer and with a TINY bit of urging decided to sell me his inheritance. Here are some pictures. The first one is as found and the last ones I took yesterday.
-Don

d42jeep · « **Reply #23 on:** October 08, 2018, 03:47:46 AM »

I wasn’t sure whether to post this set in the 1/2” or 3/8” thread but I figured since the ratchet is 1/2” drive that it belonged here. It came with the original cardboard insert and looked virtually unused.
-Don

john k · « **Reply #24 on:** October 08, 2018, 10:13:36 PM »

Okay not a half inch drive set, but a set of half inch drive sockets. Full set of SK polished sockets, almost no wear, only 4 had any dirt in them. Actually got two sets, 3/8 - 1-1/4, one never used and one that's been used hard. Found in a junk store in an old shoe box. Thought it was amazing that a good quality set of sockets sat unused for decades, always felt the finish on these SK was better than any others sold at that time. Haven't looked to see what the period set would look like.

d42jeep · « **Reply #25 on:** October 08, 2018, 10:27:59 PM »

Those look great. Early this summer my neighbor brought me a nice batch of knurled S-K sockets that look very similar to yours. Here they are after cleaning. He knows I dig S-K. Here are some sets those sockets might have come in.
-Don

Cruiser808 · « **Reply #26 on:** October 09, 2018, 02:31:54 PM »

Here’s a 1950’s P&C set. The inside logo is dirty, but intact.

bmwrd0 · « **Reply #27 on:** October 09, 2018, 05:46:14 PM »

Well, if we are gonna go all P&C on us...

20180723_141442 by Aaron Warfield, on Flickr

20180723_141432 by Aaron Warfield, on Flickr
This one is from the '40's, so I got that going for me, which is nice...

Cruiser808 · « **Reply #28 on:** October 09, 2018, 05:53:42 PM »

Sweet bmwrdo!

bmwrd0 · « **Reply #29 on:** October 09, 2018, 06:04:20 PM »

Here are a few more from the Empire of Proto

Proto LA, pieced together over the years.

Wartime set, never got around to cleaning it. Bought that one complete for a rediculously amount of money ($3) I couldn't believe the guy either.

Sorry, it is hard to take pictures of things that are so shiny... I couldn't believe it either when I opened it up. Mostly unused.

Cruiser808 · « **Reply #30 on:** October 09, 2018, 06:45:04 PM »

Very nice.

d42jeep · « **Reply #31 on:** October 09, 2018, 08:01:43 PM »

As you can imagine, I’m liking those green box Plomb sets!
-Don

slip knot · « **Reply #32 on:** October 12, 2018, 05:40:57 PM »

An old Craftsman BE set I picked up. the box is almost cooler than the set. This is one of my long term projects. I cant decide if I want to restore it or just preserve it. its pretty crusty tho.

slip knot · « **Reply #33 on:** October 12, 2018, 05:42:08 PM »

The actual set.

J.A.F.E. · « **Reply #34 on:** October 12, 2018, 05:58:46 PM »

That BE ratchet is a real war horse. I had one and when I got it it was just about solid. Took it apart and cleaned out all the hardened grease a little cleaning and some new grease and it was amazing. I gave it to a friend eventually.

Cruiser808 · « **Reply #35 on:** October 12, 2018, 07:24:20 PM »

Slip knot, that set is so cool.

slip knot · « **Reply #36 on:** October 12, 2018, 09:02:54 PM »

unbelievably the ratchets smooth as silk. but everything has a lot of finish wear. kinda like the box.

d42jeep · « **Reply #37 on:** October 12, 2018, 09:08:34 PM »

Here is a Craftsman estate sale find that has since moved on to a new home.
-Don

d42jeep · « **Reply #38 on:** October 18, 2018, 06:19:24 AM »

These Duro-Indestro sets are desirable to WW2 toolset collectors because they come with most of the D-I sockets to complete a General Mechanics Tool Set commonly referred to as a GMTK. They were also purchased by the Navy as can be seen from the NAF catalog listing. Here are mine.
-Don

Cruiser808 · « **Reply #39 on:** October 18, 2018, 07:56:40 AM »

Very nice Don!

Uncle Buck · « **Reply #40 on:** October 18, 2018, 10:07:39 AM »

Quote from: john k on October 08, 2018, 10:13:36 PM

Okay not a half inch drive set, but a set of half inch drive sockets. Full set of SK polished sockets, almost no wear, only 4 had any dirt in them. Actually got two sets, 3/8 - 1-1/4, one never used and one that's been used hard. Found in a junk store in an old shoe box. Thought it was amazing that a good quality set of sockets sat unused for decades, always felt the finish on these SK was better than any others sold at that time. Haven't looked to see what the period set would look like.

I always favored that style of SK sockets and wanted a set too.

bonneyman · « **Reply #41 on:** October 18, 2018, 10:25:29 AM »

Quote from: slip knot on October 12, 2018, 05:40:57 PM

An old Craftsman BE set I picked up. the box is almost cooler than the set. This is one of my long term projects. I cant decide if I want to restore it or just preserve it. its pretty crusty tho.

Restore it!

d42jeep · « **Reply #42 on:** October 18, 2018, 12:49:53 PM »

Quote from: Cruiser808 on October 18, 2018, 07:56:40 AM

Very nice Don!

Thanks. I added crossbars to the sets because I feel like they should have come with them since the extensions have crossbar holes.
-Dom

d42jeep · « **Reply #43 on:** November 24, 2018, 07:29:47 AM »

Here is a Powr-Kraft set I found at an estate sale earlier in the year in Lafayette, CA. The wrenches were supplied by Barcalo and the other tools by Wright. It turns out that the original owner lived close to my summer home.
-Don

coolmercury · « **Reply #44 on:** November 27, 2018, 03:49:53 PM »

Here is a different 1/2 inch drive set that I picked up cheap a few years ago. Works great around propane tanks etc. Ampco, the none sparking tool co.

hickory n Steel · « **Reply #45 on:** November 27, 2018, 04:56:03 PM »

Quote from: coolmercury on November 27, 2018, 03:49:53 PM

Here is a different 1/2 inch drive set that I picked up cheap a few years ago. Works great around propane tanks etc. Ampco, the none sparking tool co.

Very interesting.

d42jeep · « **Reply #46 on:** December 02, 2018, 07:51:43 PM »

Here is a Craftsman =v= 1/2” drive set that I found in what I believe to be it’s original box. It was missing a few pieces which I had sitting around. It came with a nice =v= DOE wrench set in the bag. It’s not in great shape but would be a good user set.

d42jeep · « **Reply #47 on:** December 02, 2018, 07:53:56 PM »

Here is the wrench set and a couple more pictures.
-Don

hickory n Steel · « **Reply #48 on:** December 02, 2018, 08:59:02 PM »

Quote from: d42jeep on December 02, 2018, 07:53:56 PM

Here is the wrench set and a couple more pictures.
-Don

That would be an excellent user set.

coolmercury · « **Reply #49 on:** December 03, 2018, 08:12:03 AM »

That is the original box.

d42jeep · « **Reply #50 on:** December 05, 2018, 08:33:26 PM »

Yeah, I thought so. Here is what it looked like when I brought it home.
-Don

Uncle Buck · « **Reply #51 on:** December 05, 2018, 08:40:19 PM »

Quote from: d42jeep on December 05, 2018, 08:33:26 PM

Yeah, I thought so. Here is what it looked like when I brought it home.
-Don

It strikes me as odd that the box was silver or gray on the outside and red on the inside. I would have expected silver or gray, both inside and outside. I do think it is an original Cman box though.

bonneyman · « **Reply #52 on:** December 05, 2018, 08:56:31 PM »

Nice the way you completed the set, Don!

Uncle Buck · « **Reply #53 on:** December 06, 2018, 08:34:22 AM »

Quote from: bonneyman on December 05, 2018, 08:56:31 PM

Nice the way you completed the set, Don!

Agreed, but add a U-joint!

Davethorik · « **Reply #54 on:** December 06, 2018, 07:05:30 PM »

So I'm not sure where this should go, as it has a bunch of matching sockets in 1/2 and 3/8 drive. It should have a bunch of other bits in it, like drive tools etc. but they were long gone, except for a Ferret sliding T handle (not pictured) and a 3/8 universal that is very rusty and as loose as a universal can get without being disassembled. It had a bunch of other interesting junk in it, though including a Plomb WF-21 rat in 3/8, a Plomb 5262 12" extension in 3/8, and a bunch of random WF Plomb sockets in 9/32 and 3/8 drive. It also had a large flat head prybar...screwdriver marked Massey Harris USA (I gave to my dad, looked like a Pratt-Read).

A lot of the 1/2 drive sockets look like they had a pipe wrench or channel locks on the O.D., all chewed up. Still pretty cool, though. I've used them a few times in a pinch with no issues, except sockets lack any detent. I bought this a number of years ago for $20 wanting the box only (not knowing then it was basically a tool collector's starter kit

). But the partial set of sockets, sliding T, and universal are all dated '34 or '35, which I thought was cool.

Box measures approx. 20"×7"×3"

As shown, it is overflow 1/2 drive storage. Most of the sockets in the trays came with, (lots of random USA brand fill ins). Everything else has been added.

d42jeep · « **Reply #55 on:** December 08, 2018, 12:13:45 AM »

Quote from: Uncle Buck on December 06, 2018, 08:34:22 AM

Quote from: bonneyman on December 05, 2018, 08:56:31 PM
Nice the way you completed the set, Don!

Agreed, but add a U-joint!

Okay. I checked the Craftsman stash and there was one in there. I also put the crossbar back in that I had immediately robbed out of the set.
-Don

goodfellow · « **Reply #56 on:** December 08, 2018, 07:33:46 AM »

It's a nice set -- what sizes are the three deep sockets? I don't think deep sockets originally were part of the set --

d42jeep · « **Reply #57 on:** December 08, 2018, 10:03:41 AM »

They are 13/16”, 7/8”, 15/16” and 1”. Pretty useful sizes and they seemed to fit in with the set as extras. The 13/16” could double up as a spark plug socket.
-Don

bonneyman · « **Reply #58 on:** December 08, 2018, 11:42:17 AM »

Quote from: Davethorik on December 06, 2018, 07:05:30 PM

So I'm not sure where this should go, as it has a bunch of matching sockets in 1/2 and 3/8 drive. It should have a bunch of other bits in it, like drive tools etc. but they were long gone, except for a Ferret sliding T handle (not pictured) and a 3/8 universal that is very rusty and as loose as a universal can get without being disassembled. It had a bunch of other interesting junk in it, though including a Plomb WF-21 rat in 3/8, a Plomb 5262 12" extension in 3/8, and a bunch of random WF Plomb sockets in 9/32 and 3/8 drive. It also had a large flat head prybar...screwdriver marked Massey Harris USA (I gave to my dad, looked like a Pratt-Read).

A lot of the 1/2 drive sockets look like they had a pipe wrench or channel locks on the O.D., all chewed up. Still pretty cool, though. I've used them a few times in a pinch with no issues, except sockets lack any detent. I bought this a number of years ago for $20 wanting the box only (not knowing then it was basically a tool collector's starter kit ). But the partial set of sockets, sliding T, and universal are all dated '34 or '35, which I thought was cool.

Box measures approx. 20"×7"×3"

As shown, it is overflow 1/2 drive storage. Most of the sockets in the trays came with, (lots of random USA brand fill ins). Everything else has been added.

You gotta use what you've got.
Heck, my old refurbed S-K box is full of Bonney and Craftsman.

Lookin4_67GalaxieConv · « **Reply #59 on:** December 11, 2018, 11:12:44 PM »

1/2" Gedore set, 8-28 MM

J.A.F.E. · « **Reply #60 on:** December 12, 2018, 12:44:42 AM »

Wow that is nice. Quite different but very cool.

d42jeep · « **Reply #61 on:** December 23, 2018, 06:06:21 AM »

Here is a Thorsen 1/2” deep set that was made for a military contract.
-Don

d42jeep · « **Reply #62 on:** December 23, 2018, 08:00:51 AM »

Here is a Craftsman -vv- 1/2” drive Metric socket set.
-Don

Lookin4_67GalaxieConv · « **Reply #63 on:** January 21, 2019, 10:51:01 PM »

1/2" Fleet set I got for $10

goodfellow · « **Reply #64 on:** January 22, 2019, 07:10:26 AM »

Beautiful Fleet set -- classic!

lauver · « **Reply #65 on:** January 22, 2019, 10:53:51 AM »

Gang,

I like Fleet tools, especially their smoooooth ratchets. The Fleet tools are different than the other Plomb/Proto tools. Where did Fleet fit into the Plomb/Proto mix? Was Fleet originally an independent tool company that Plomb/Proto acquired but couldn't really standardize and integrate?

Your thoughts...

bonneyman · « **Reply #66 on:** January 22, 2019, 08:52:14 PM »

I always thought Fleet had some connection to Monty Wards. But I have no evidence.

d42jeep · « **Reply #67 on:** January 22, 2019, 10:09:39 PM »

AA has a pretty good write up on the subject. It has to do with the purchase of Bog.
http://alloy-artifacts.org/proto-empire.html#penens
-Don

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