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Title: SBD suing Sears over Craftsman
Post by: DeadNutz on March 06, 2019, 11:28:38 PM
Stanley Black & Decker is suing Sears over them making a new line of Craftsman tools while claiming they are the best tools. Be interesting to see where this goes.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/sears-is-sued-over-craftsman-brand/ar-BBUt4wj?ocid=spartandhp
Title: Re: SBD suing Sears over Craftsman
Post by: Conductor562 on March 07, 2019, 12:11:43 AM
After the weird terms of the agreement between SBD and Sears I suppose it was inevitable. SBD got a fire sale price for a reason. They left Sears a lot of liberty with the brand.

Whatever the terms of the agreement, Sears certainly took a shot at SBD, who has every right to be pissed IMO. It’s a shame Sears was so inept in the way they handled Craftsman. As quality dwindled to straight garbage I cringed every time I saw some crackhead looking bastard in there warranting a bucket full of tools that you know damn good and we’ll were either A: Purchased at a flea market or B: Stolen, because they were rusted or they’d stirred paint with a screwdriver. Sears ran off people like us, to cater to people like that.

As far as I’m concerned they are just reaping what the sowed. For years when we went to the mall I’d rummage around Sears while Mrs. Conductor shopped. I’d always find something worth taking home. But the last couple times I was in there the inventory was pitiful. Whole isles that were once filled with tools lay vacant. It was sad and eventually I quit even going.

I felt that SBD really had a chance to capitalize on the brand. It was well within their capabilities to come to market with a solid offering. All they had to do was make the wrenches, ratchets, sockets, and screwdrivers, in the USA and nobody would have cared about any of the rest. But they bombed. They put out teasers about USA products, but all we got at launch was the “Assembled in USA” on some power tools. If SBD can’t make a wrench in the USA and sell it at an affordable price, nobody can. They could have, they just didn’t.

I know it’s stubborn, maybe even ridiculous, but I have ZERO interest in a Craftsman hand tool not made in the United States. I guess it makes me a hypocrite because I’m fine with some Asian stuff, but if it’s chrome and it turns a fastener, it has to say USA.
Title: Re: SBD suing Sears over Craftsman
Post by: hickory n Steel on March 07, 2019, 01:14:38 AM
After the weird terms of the agreement between SBD and Sears I suppose it was inevitable. SBD got a fire sale price for a reason. They left Sears a lot of liberty with the brand.

Whatever the terms of the agreement, Sears certainly took a shot at SBD, who has every right to be pissed IMO. It’s a shame Sears was so inept in the way they handled Craftsman. As quality dwindled to straight garbage I cringed every time I saw some crackhead looking bastard in there warranting a bucket full of tools that you know damn good and we’ll were either A: Purchased at a flea market or B: Stolen, because they were rusted or they’d stirred paint with a screwdriver. Sears ran off people like us, to cater to people like that.

As far as I’m concerned they are just reaping what the sowed. For years when we went to the mall I’d rummage around Sears while Mrs. Conductor shopped. I’d always find something worth taking home. But the last couple times I was in there the inventory was pitiful. Whole isles that were once filled with tools lay vacant. It was sad and eventually I quit even going.

I felt that SBD really had a chance to capitalize on the brand. It was well within their capabilities to come to market with a solid offering. All they had to do was make the wrenches, ratchets, sockets, and screwdrivers, in the USA and nobody would have cared about any of the rest. But they bombed. They put out teasers about USA products, but all we got at launch was the “Assembled in USA” on some power tools. If SBD can’t make a wrench in the USA and sell it at an affordable price, nobody can. They could have, they just didn’t.

I know it’s stubborn, maybe even ridiculous, but I have ZERO interest in a Craftsman hand tool not made in the United States. I guess it makes me a hypocrite because I’m fine with some Asian stuff, but if it’s chrome and it turns a fastener, it has to say USA.
I'm with ya, I'm only 24 and even I know that for the longest time Craftsman was the go to for quality American made tools at an affordable price.
 I mean harbor freight has the same kind of warranty these days, and from what I hear quality is only rising.

And as far as USA goes I just feel good about owning and buying American made things.
I don't know of any 100% US made cordless tools / batteries and drill or driver bits are consumable but beyond that I prefer American made with everything else when I can.
Title: Re: SBD suing Sears over Craftsman
Post by: highland512 on March 07, 2019, 07:45:29 AM
What are these "new line of Craftsman tools"?
Title: Re: SBD suing Sears over Craftsman
Post by: fatfillup on March 07, 2019, 08:05:01 AM
What are these "new line of Craftsman tools"?

Just go to a Sears store and check them out :))
Title: Re: SBD suing Sears over Craftsman
Post by: slip knot on March 07, 2019, 08:19:03 AM
How many Sears stores are left? Ours closed at the first of the year
Title: Re: SBD suing Sears over Craftsman
Post by: crankshaftdan II on March 07, 2019, 09:27:18 AM
Most stores have already closed--maybe they will sell on line? ???
Title: Re: SBD suing Sears over Craftsman
Post by: goodfellow on March 07, 2019, 09:33:16 AM
According to one article related to this lawsuit, there are about 450 Sears and K-Mart stores left in the US. Just to put that in perspective, when "Fast Eddie" took over the company in 2005, there were approx. 3500 Sears and K-Mart stores across the US.

Title: Re: SBD suing Sears over Craftsman
Post by: J.A.F.E. on March 07, 2019, 11:01:31 AM
As a relatively impartial observer from what I've read it looks like Sears did cross the line. But that is based on what was written in a couple articles. What's interesting is that it appears Sears can source tools from anyone anywhere and brand them Craftsman. So while advertising as the real home of Craftsman (one of the points of the suit between SBD and Sears) might be a jab at SBD/Lowes Sears can peddle (if they so choose) any dreck and call it Craftsman. And do so for 15 years (if it lasts that long). Interesting turn.

Title: Re: SBD suing Sears over Craftsman
Post by: highland512 on March 07, 2019, 02:23:15 PM
What are these "new line of Craftsman tools"?

Just go to a Sears store and check them out :))

I think I would have better luck finding an SK truck parked beside a Mac truck at a Waylon Jennings concert.
Title: Re: SBD suing Sears over Craftsman
Post by: J.A.F.E. on March 07, 2019, 04:04:17 PM

I think I would have better luck finding an SK truck parked beside a Mac truck at a Waylon Jennings concert.

Unfortunately Waylon passed away in 2002.

But you might find an SK truck parked next to a MAC truck at a Wailin Jennys concert.
Title: Re: SBD suing Sears over Craftsman
Post by: highland512 on March 07, 2019, 04:08:27 PM
It was a joke JAFE.............
Title: Re: SBD suing Sears over Craftsman
Post by: hickory n Steel on March 07, 2019, 04:16:07 PM

I think I would have better luck finding an SK truck parked beside a Mac truck at a Waylon Jennings concert.

Unfortunately Waylon passed away in 2002.

But you might find an SK truck parked next to a MAC truck at a Wailin Jennys concert.
Seen an SK truck across the street from a SNAP-ON truck a couple weeks ago.
and that was only the second time I've ever seen either in my dinky little town.
Title: Re: SBD suing Sears over Craftsman
Post by: J.A.F.E. on March 07, 2019, 04:44:47 PM
It was a joke JAFE.............

I know and found it funny.
Title: Re: SBD suing Sears over Craftsman
Post by: TerryWerm on March 08, 2019, 07:10:31 AM
Whoa!!!  You mean to tell me that they are still making S-K tools??  Holy moly, I had no clue.
Title: Re: SBD suing Sears over Craftsman
Post by: Rusty on March 08, 2019, 08:23:11 AM
Rare would be a Cornwell truck between an SK and a Matco at a Cruxshadows concert.
Title: Re: SBD suing Sears over Craftsman
Post by: hickory n Steel on March 14, 2019, 10:56:06 PM
Whoa!!!  You mean to tell me that they are still making S-K tools??  Holy moly, I had no clue.
Ok you got me, there was no SK truck.
It was more of a van than a truck  :D
The SNAP-ON truck was definitely the typical big ol' truck.