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Making my own version of the Blackhawk nuggies set.
« on: April 08, 2023, 08:36:47 AM »
Thanks to SKfarmer for sending me this Williams NM51, it was on my 1/4 ratchet list but I never knew how small they were.

With this ratchet I had finally found my answer, it seems nobody else but Williams made a tiny ratchet and the wrenches needed.

I just scored this set on Ebay, next will be looking for the driver handle and such thro eventually the perfect case / box.

I won't need every wrench for the William's " Nuggies " set , but the rest will be handy to have anyways.
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Re: Making my own version of the Blackhawk nuggies set.
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2023, 08:44:58 AM »
that is a sweet little ratchet in pretty darn good shape. i liked it for sure and used it a time or two but knew it was meant for a collection. looks like it will end up reunited with some of its family.
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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2023, 04:21:56 PM »
I'm definitely glad to have it.
that is a sweet little ratchet in pretty darn good shape. i liked it for sure and used it a time or two but knew it was meant for a collection. looks like it will end up reunited with some of its family.
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Re: Making my own version of the Blackhawk nuggies set.
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2023, 11:34:56 AM »
This is what a midget electrical set looks like.

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Re: Making my own version of the Blackhawk nuggies set.
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2023, 11:39:18 AM »
NM6 and NM7 sets. A little different driver and ratchet between those two. 

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Re: Making my own version of the Blackhawk nuggies set.
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2023, 01:03:30 PM »
Thanks for the pictures.

I am not concerned about everything exactly belonging together as long as the markings are similar enough.
I plan to go with the NM-106 spinner handle, because I want the set to be as compact as possible and will be able to make that spinner handle shorter.
The plan being to remove the shaft and refit it further into the handle.

This is going to be a custom set after all, so I don't need everything to be all original.
I don't think it will even be in a William's box.
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« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2023, 02:42:05 PM »
It's missing the 1/2 and 9/16 ( though I don't necessarily need them ), but everything that is there looks unused.



I'm not sure on the era maybe 70's-80's ?
I don't know,  but it's good enough for me.


It has all 6vwrench sizes the Blackhawk nuggies includes and then some, probably a wrench to go with every socket the set will have.
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Re: Making my own version of the Blackhawk nuggies set.
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2023, 09:46:29 PM »
If you are going for Williams, this is the set you need:


The set now goes from 1/8" to 9/16" shallow and deep sockets, along with small wrenches. I have been quite happy with this set.

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« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2023, 11:11:03 PM »
Thats a very cool inclusive Williams 1/4 set you've got there.
My idea here is to sort of replicate the 1940's Blackhawk 19nd Nuggies pocket tool kit.
Mostly just for fun and to see how comparable of a set I can make ( compared to pictures anyways since they're unobtainable ) because it's just a very cool little set.

I've already got my main use 1/4dr kit that I put together, basically for small engine territory where other small tools are frequently needed.




It may be a bit of a shame to relegate the wrenches to something I'll mostly collect, but I may find a purpose for it.
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« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2023, 11:23:11 PM »
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« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2023, 08:24:59 AM »
Since you shown a Blackhawk ad, years ago I saw a toolbox on one of the forums, that was Blackhawk and looked like a cross between a bullet and an electrolux vacuum.

Never saw a picture of what it was supposed to look like complete, any idea what I am talking about?

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« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2023, 11:51:05 AM »
Since you shown a Blackhawk ad, years ago I saw a toolbox on one of the forums, that was Blackhawk and looked like a cross between a bullet and an electrolux vacuum.

Never saw a picture of what it was supposed to look like complete, any idea what I am talking about?
Yes the torpedo box, I think it was called the Nugget.
It was a 3/8 set I think that had a large selection of sockets plus the ratchet breaker bar and speeder...etc.
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Re: Making my own version of the Blackhawk nuggies set.
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2023, 07:28:26 PM »
Since you shown a Blackhawk ad, years ago I saw a toolbox on one of the forums, that was Blackhawk and looked like a cross between a bullet and an electrolux vacuum.

Never saw a picture of what it was supposed to look like complete, any idea what I am talking about?

The torpedo box came in two or more variations and contained different sets. One housed the portapower set and one had the 7/16 drive set.

The boxes can go for big money.
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« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2023, 08:59:01 PM »
Since you shown a Blackhawk ad, years ago I saw a toolbox on one of the forums, that was Blackhawk and looked like a cross between a bullet and an electrolux vacuum.

Never saw a picture of what it was supposed to look like complete, any idea what I am talking about?

The torpedo box came in two or more variations and contained different sets. One housed the portapower set and one had the 7/16 drive set.

The boxes can go for big money.
7/16 drive ?
That's a new one on me, was 7/16 the standard before 3/8 ?
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« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2023, 10:06:50 PM »
7/16 drive was something Blackhawk did. The idea was you could buy a 7/16 set and fill the role of 3/8 and 1/2. THey made two 7/16 ratchets one that was gearless and had a fixed length handle and one that was toothed like a standard ratchet that had a handle that could extend or shorten. The handle on 7/16 carried the torpedo theme as did the handle on the breaker bar and speeder. Pretty cool looking stuff.

The pix show the handle collapsed and extended and the 7/16 next to a 3/8 and 1/2.

There are plenty of other drive sizes in square drive and at least three in hex drive.
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« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2023, 01:44:00 AM »
I never knew they had gearless and extendable baldies.

I swear Blackhawk probably made the coolest tools there ever was, and I thought Snapon was the king of neat unique toolboxes but sure Blackhawk had some awesome boxes.

This one is quite an interesting box.
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« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2023, 02:20:59 PM »
Thank you for the proper name, it made images easier to find!

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« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2023, 07:10:12 PM »
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I swear Blackhawk probably made the coolest tools there ever was, and I thought Snapon was the king of neat unique toolboxes but sure Blackhawk had some awesome boxes.

This one is quite an interesting box.


They are damned heavy boxes. I use mine for tap and die storage. One of these days it will get restored. Maybe 🤔

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« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2023, 07:45:10 PM »
It sure doesn't surprise me that they're a heavy box.
That seems like a good use for it, but I sure would like to know what they intended because it sure seems like something that would have had a specific use in mind.
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Re: Making my own version of the Blackhawk nuggies set.
« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2023, 10:45:47 PM »
I

I swear Blackhawk probably made the coolest tools there ever was, and I thought Snapon was the king of neat unique toolboxes but sure Blackhawk had some awesome boxes.

This one is quite an interesting box.


They are damned heavy boxes. I use mine for tap and die storage. One of these days it will get restored. Maybe 🤔

What an incredibly cool box! I think I almost like it as it is.
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« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2023, 12:30:04 AM »
I'm starting to get a bit discouraged with my project.
Most of what I need is out there except possibly an appropriate case, but there is one glaring hiccup I can't get past and I have to really do some serious thinking on this.
The m51 is the most appropriate William's ratchet, but their flex handle is so much larger that I'll need a bigger case and that'll throw out the whole point of having a small ratchet.

Ideally I would love to go with WRIGHT tool, the 2426 ratchet is perfect for this as is the 2435 flex handle being the same length.
I'd use an extension and the handle off a WRIGHT ph1 screwdriver to make an appropriately sized spinner handle.
The problem is I don't think they ever made a 1/4" sliding T handle, and I'm not sure if their ignition wrenches will fit the bill if I can find a set (not the current Taiwanese Cougar wrenches ) .

For now I will proceed with trying to build this aa a William's set, but if I can get ahold of the Wright ignition wrenches I may break one of my rules and go with a cheap unbranded imported Sliding T handle.










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« Reply #21 on: May 27, 2023, 10:52:14 AM »
I just bought these on Ebay as a plan b,  and I will just see which can be completed first.
I already have a vintage 2400 ratchet if I don't want to just score a whole 1/4 set to use since I still need the socks...etc.
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« Reply #22 on: May 28, 2023, 03:44:39 AM »
It looks like WRIGHT may come first.

Basically the only thing missing is a spinner handle.
The 2442 is too big for this purpose, so I think I'll buy a WRIGHT 1/8 or ph1...etc screwdriver and make a smaller one.

My only concern here is that the longer extension is too long, but the 19nd buggies set only had 1 extension so I guess I can just leave that one out.
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« Reply #23 on: May 30, 2023, 01:40:43 PM »
I'm not sure if there will be a date code on the wrenches, but I can see the 2400 ratchet in the set I bought on Ebay has a 1976 date code on it.
It would be cool if it's all the same or similar age, but that's not exactly necessary.
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« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2023, 10:59:14 PM »
What are you using for the nuggies box? Seems like the right box is a big part of the utility of that set.

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« Reply #25 on: May 31, 2023, 09:49:30 AM »
What are you using for the nuggies box? Seems like the right box is a big part of the utility of that set.
I'm compiling the components before I figure that part out.
I'm thinking it will be some kind of small Plano or Flambeau tackle box, I like steel but plastic is kind of necessar here.
If neither of them have a box I can use, I'll see what MIHO out of Japan has.
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« Reply #26 on: May 31, 2023, 02:42:30 PM »
I just got the wrenches, and it turns put they're just EASCO wrenches in a WRIGHT pouch.

I'm not sure why, if WRIGHT never made ignition wrenches like this or if they were put in this wrench roll by a previous owner.

It looks like I'll have to stick with Williams for my set.
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« Reply #27 on: June 02, 2023, 12:27:18 AM »
Looking back over the pictures I've saved of the 19nd buggies set, I see ( keep forgetting ) that there actually is no sliding T included.
The 6" extension just has a hole for a T bar.
With that in mind it gives me some ideas, like maybe making a t bar that fits the hole in the WRIGHT flex handle and just getting a vintage WRIGHT 4" adjustable to take care of the wrench situation.
I have accepted the fact that I will have to make some kind of compromise and a little DIY to make this happen, but I have set this goal in my mind.

I must create a suitable equivalent to the 19nd nuggies, I know it won't be exact but it has to have all of the same capabilities and all tools must be the same brand.

One thing I still haven't really figured out is whether the wrenches in the set are special scales down " midget " wrenches,  or if they're just some extra nice ignition wrenches.
Those wrenches have been one of the biggest hiccups.
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« Reply #28 on: April 22, 2024, 09:59:52 PM »
I was noodling through Cripe's store today, and I remembered your quest to build a not-quite-a-nuggies set.

They had a 1/4" ratchet, SAE shallow sockets, a spinner handle and ignition wrench set, all USA Kobalt. If I stuck them in a rounded plastic box, that's pretty close to the Nuggies 19N, right?

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« Reply #29 on: April 23, 2024, 12:53:09 AM »
I was noodling through Cripe's store today, and I remembered your quest to build a not-quite-a-nuggies set.

They had a 1/4" ratchet, SAE shallow sockets, a spinner handle and ignition wrench set, all USA Kobalt. If I stuck them in a rounded plastic box, that's pretty close to the Nuggies 19N, right?
Essentially I guess except you'd be missing a flex handle " breaker bar " and an extension.
The problem is that the 19nd nuggies set was specifically extra small tools and I think they even made the midget wrenches especially for the Nuggies set because they don't appear to just be ignition wrenches and the larger sizes would not normally be that small of a wrench.

I am just quite particular about this endeavor of mine,  but you don't have to be and if I wasn't this set would be complete already assembled with Craftsman tools I already have.
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« Reply #30 on: April 23, 2024, 09:05:19 PM »
You will definitely have something mighty nice when you're done assembling it all.

I might just dig up a plastic case and stuff these in it.It might be handy for small stuff.

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« Reply #31 on: April 28, 2024, 10:31:42 AM »
Those Kobalt tools got here. The ignition wrenches are definitely stamped. They're nice stampings, but they're not nice as the forged wrenches would be. I can definitely see why you're being picky about putting yours together.

The sockets and ignition wrenches are in increments of 1/32nd, so they would probably give adequate coverage for smaller metric as well as SAE.

Adding a short extension to this group would be cheap and easy. Did Kobalt ever make a 1/4" breaker bar?

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« Reply #32 on: April 28, 2024, 03:29:12 PM »
Those Kobalt tools got here. The ignition wrenches are definitely stamped. They're nice stampings, but they're not nice as the forged wrenches would be. I can definitely see why you're being picky about putting yours together.

The sockets and ignition wrenches are in increments of 1/32nd, so they would probably give adequate coverage for smaller metric as well as SAE.

Adding a short extension to this group would be cheap and easy. Did Kobalt ever make a 1/4" breaker bar?
I'm guessing those are the same as the last of the USA Craftsman ignition wrenches, the DOE's they had are decent but the combos usually pretty crude in the box end even back to the Easco Days.
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