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Offline m_fumich

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MIG welding with bottle gas vs flux core
« on: August 28, 2020, 09:32:59 AM »
IIRC, if you don’t have bottle gas for your MIG welder, the alternative is to use flux core wire. Is there a difference in the strength or quality of the weld between the two? If not, why would I want to use bottle gas over flux core wire?


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Re: MIG welding with bottle gas vs flux core
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2020, 11:53:08 AM »
 Every skyscraper since 1980 has been stuck together with innershield. If run correctly it's as good, or in some cases better than hard wire MIG.

I run a lot of innershield nr212 and nr203. It's smokey, finicky, dirty, blows spatter all over, awful on thin metal (anything under 1/4"), and several other unpleasant traits. It eats trash and paint for dinner and doesn't care if the wind is blowing 40 mph. When it's dialed in, it runs like a million bucks and you can dump the metal in. Vertical up is my favorite position to run it. The slag lets you carry a large, hot puddle to really burn in. Full disclosure, I run industrial welders, .045"-.072" wire, and never really under 150 amps. A needle scaler and grinder with a stringer wire wheel are mandatory for cleaning up the dingleberrys innershield throws.

If I am welding inside, hard wire MIG is the most convenient, smoothest, and cleanest. It has zero tolerance for any wind and doesn't love rust or paint without making swiss cheese bird crap welds.

Both have their places.

This is all done with innershield. Not the prettiest, but I trust none of it will come apart.









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Re: MIG welding with bottle gas vs flux core
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2020, 12:01:22 PM »
Every skyscraper since 1980 has been stuck together with innershield. If run correctly it's as good, or in some cases better than hard wire MIG.



I am not familiar with the terms innershield and hard wire.


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Re: MIG welding with bottle gas vs flux core
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2020, 06:29:44 AM »

I am not familiar with the terms innershield and hard wire.


Google is but one of many search engines that allow you to learn about things you are not familiar with. Try it!

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Re: MIG welding with bottle gas vs flux core
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2020, 06:38:22 AM »

I am not familiar with the terms innershield and hard wire.


Google is but one of many search engines that allow you to learn about things you are not familiar with. Try it!
If I Googled every question I had to ask, then what’s the point of this whole goddamn forum?


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Re: MIG welding with bottle gas vs flux core
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2020, 07:04:41 AM »
WOW        :c029:        Given solid advise you lash out. 


Oldnslo , the term “no good deed goes unpunished” comes to mind.
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Re: MIG welding with bottle gas vs flux core
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2020, 07:18:19 AM »

If I Googled every question I had to ask, then what’s the point of this whole goddamn forum?


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Once again you are way out of line. But the point of the forum is not as your personal assistant. Referring to the forum in that manner shows a lot of disrespect. Blowing up at someone offering the obvious solution to most of your questions is not good form.

There's a world of difference between asking questions where people can help and being too lazy to do the ground work for yourself.

I think a time out is in order but I think all the mods and the admin should be involved in this decision.
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Offline skfarmer

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Re: MIG welding with bottle gas vs flux core
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2020, 09:34:08 AM »

I am not familiar with the terms innershield and hard wire.


Google is but one of many search engines that allow you to learn about things you are not familiar with. Try it!
If I Googled every question I had to ask, then what’s the point of this whole goddamn forum?


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it's called give and take. members that contribute and ask reasonable questions benefit the sight. those that only take, have nothing to offer  and lash out when they get answers they don't like are not valuable.

maybe this forum isn't for and you should move on. i hear the garage journal is accepting members. when a few more mods check in temp ban will be issued for now.

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Re: MIG welding with bottle gas vs flux core
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2020, 09:35:39 AM »
Temp ban for what?


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Re: MIG welding with bottle gas vs flux core
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2020, 09:40:59 AM »
Temp ban for what?


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lashing out and insulting oldnslo and the site for that matter.
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Re: MIG welding with bottle gas vs flux core
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2020, 09:42:09 AM »
Temp ban for what?


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lashing out and insulting oldnslo and the site for that matter.
I did no such thing. I asked a very reasonable question.


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Re: MIG welding with bottle gas vs flux core
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2020, 09:46:51 AM »

I am not familiar with the terms innershield and hard wire.


Google is but one of many search engines that allow you to learn about things you are not familiar with. Try it!
If I Googled every question I had to ask, then what’s the point of this whole goddamn forum?


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there it is right there. he gave you an answer you didn't like so you swore at him and the forum.
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Re: MIG welding with bottle gas vs flux core
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2020, 09:49:09 AM »
there it is right there. he gave you an answer you didn't like so you swore at him and the forum.

You’re applying my words out of context.


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Re: MIG welding with bottle gas vs flux core
« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2020, 09:52:34 AM »
even heiny saw through your response. we are not going to argue this.

edit. my apology to heiny. i should have said. heiny, not   being a moderator also saw through the  comment. i would assume oldnslo isn't real impressed with it either.

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Re: MIG welding with bottle gas vs flux core
« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2020, 01:38:45 PM »
Holy shit, he swore at the forum, Better ban him. Why don't you say you don't like him and get rid of him.?