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Texas abortion law
« on: September 13, 2021, 02:47:40 PM »
So this on the news and i have strong feeling as does the gf that the government has no business telling woman what they can do with their bodies most woman dont even know their pregnant till after 6 weeks. Also why should woman have to suffer when the man is just as responsible for the pregnancy but he gets to run off and do whatever without consequence.... Texas is justas bad as california except instead of liberal its grumpy old men dictating womens bodys

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Re: Texas abortion law
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2021, 03:52:25 PM »
If we had rational policies on abortion this fight would not be needed. While 6 weeks might be a bit extreme on one end late term including up to birth is very extreme on the other end, I feel late term is a poor choice for birth control.

Do you believe that the govt can make getting shot with an experimental vaccine mandatory and private companies as well. It makes no difference if you are a man or woman they believe they can force that on you which means they don't think you have control of your body.

 

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Re: Texas abortion law
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2021, 05:10:32 PM »
If we had rational policies on abortion this fight would not be needed. While 6 weeks might be a bit extreme on one end late term including up to birth is very extreme on the other end, I feel late term is a poor choice for birth control.

Do you believe that the govt can make getting shot with an experimental vaccine mandatory and private companies as well. It makes no difference if you are a man or woman they believe they can force that on you which means they don't think you have control of your body.
I agree. Even the rape case. There's are many adoption/foster centers to take unexpected babies.

I also agree that not having a father in the house hold has a huge impact on a child's life.

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Re: Texas abortion law
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2021, 06:24:33 PM »
I'm firmly in the I do me and you do you camp. I'm not for or against abortion. its a personal choice that should be made by that person.

What I find truly ironic is that the people most vocal about this bill being a horrible infraction on personal choice are the exact same people screaming for the government to enforce mandatory covid vaccinations.

If it saves just one life its worth it :smiley_confused1:

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Re: Texas abortion law
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2021, 06:49:19 PM »
I'm pro-choice. And I think women should choose to keep their legs crossed! Once you get pregnant it's no longer your body - the baby is it's own body. It has it's own DNA and can have a different blood type and RH factor than the mother. Right there proves it is it's own entity.

You don't have the right to kill another life because you're "not ready", or it's inconvenient, or it wasn't planned. Just like you don't have the right to kill someone else that cramps your lifestyle. Your boss is an arse - doesn't give you the right to kill him. Your brother is a PITA - nope. Your governor is a complete nutjob. Sorry, there's laws against that. Same with a baby. It had no say in being conceived. It has no choice in it's parents. It has no say from the womb. So we think it's fine to kill it and cover it with all sorts of fine sounding phrases like "reproductive rights" - "my body my choice" - "it's just a mass of cells, not even a human".
It's the ultimate result of the disposable society we've created. Even life is disposable when convenient. Babies, old folks, severely retarded, veterans, non-vaxxers, Trump supporters - where the heck will it end?

Still, dead beat dads get no sympathy from me either.
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Re: Texas abortion law
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2021, 08:35:49 PM »
100% pro choice.
Nobody and i mean nobody has a say except the person involved.
Is the need enough? Or does the want suffice?

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Re: Texas abortion law
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2021, 01:23:22 AM »
Every woman should have to watch a video showing exactly what happens during an abortion before they have one. 

I've always leaned pro life and now I'm very much so.  When you have your own kid you look at a lot of things in life from a different perspective.

And as some of the others have posted, why can they mandate you take a vaccine but it's your choice whether or not to end a life?  And why are Democrats such bleeding hearts when it comes to convicted murderers sentenced to die, but could give a shit about ending the life of a fetus up to a baby?

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Re: Texas abortion law
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2021, 10:26:58 AM »
I'm firmly in the I do me and you do you camp. I'm not for or against abortion. its a personal choice that should be made by that person.

What I find truly ironic is that the people most vocal about this bill being a horrible infraction on personal choice are the exact same people screaming for the government to enforce mandatory covid vaccinations.

If it saves just one life its worth it :smiley_confused1:

Funny how this is working out isn't.

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Re: Texas abortion law
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2021, 04:01:50 PM »
Every woman should have to watch a video showing exactly what happens during an abortion before they have one. 

I've always leaned pro life and now I'm very much so.  When you have your own kid you look at a lot of things in life from a different perspective.

And as some of the others have posted, why can they mandate you take a vaccine but it's your choice whether or not to end a life?  And why are Democrats such bleeding hearts when it comes to convicted murderers sentenced to die, but could give a shit about ending the life of a fetus up to a baby?

It's how we treat the most helpless among us that determines what kind of humanity we truly have.


Well stated and I agree

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Re: Texas abortion law
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2021, 04:19:55 PM »
Every woman should have to watch a video showing exactly what happens during an abortion before they have one. 

I've always leaned pro life and now I'm very much so.  When you have your own kid you look at a lot of things in life from a different perspective.

And as some of the others have posted, why can they mandate you take a vaccine but it's your choice whether or not to end a life?  And why are Democrats such bleeding hearts when it comes to convicted murderers sentenced to die, but could give a shit about ending the life of a fetus up to a baby?

It's how we treat the most helpless among us that determines what kind of humanity we truly have.
yet your a man and should have no say about anything pertaining to abortions... Its a clump of cells basically a parasite feeding off its host. Woman who are having a abortion already know whats gonna happen they shouldnt be traumatized further with a video.

As far as vaccine versus abortion no living functioning human gets hurt if you have an abortion or dont. If you dont get vaccinated you can infect others with your disease and put there life at risk.

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Re: Texas abortion law
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2021, 05:49:20 PM »
Here in lies the problem. The vaccine doesn't cure you. it doesn't even keep you from getting it again or from spreading it. And if you get Covid theres a 95+% chance your not gonna die. Now abortion on the otherhand is 100% fatal to the unborn.

And that " mass of cells, feeding off a host" describes a lot of liberals that I know.  :lol_hitting:

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Re: Texas abortion law
« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2021, 05:53:51 PM »
Every woman should have to watch a video showing exactly what happens during an abortion before they have one. 

I've always leaned pro life and now I'm very much so.  When you have your own kid you look at a lot of things in life from a different perspective.

And as some of the others have posted, why can they mandate you take a vaccine but it's your choice whether or not to end a life?  And why are Democrats such bleeding hearts when it comes to convicted murderers sentenced to die, but could give a shit about ending the life of a fetus up to a baby?

It's how we treat the most helpless among us that determines what kind of humanity we truly have.
yet your a man and should have no say about anything pertaining to abortions... Its a clump of cells basically a parasite feeding off its host. Woman who are having a abortion already know whats gonna happen they shouldnt be traumatized further with a video.

As far as vaccine versus abortion no living functioning human gets hurt if you have an abortion or dont. If you dont get vaccinated you can infect others with your disease and put there life at risk.

If that is what they are teaching in todays schools we are in deep trouble. A woman cannot get pregnant without a man but by your thinking a man is nothing more than a sperm donor with no say in the matter. But that same man is on the hook for tons of money and support if the woman decides to carry full term to birth. That is fouled up thinking to me as men and women who decide to have children are creating a life, a human being and not just a clump of parasitic cells.

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Re: Texas abortion law
« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2021, 06:54:45 PM »
Every woman should have to watch a video showing exactly what happens during an abortion before they have one. 

I've always leaned pro life and now I'm very much so.  When you have your own kid you look at a lot of things in life from a different perspective.

And as some of the others have posted, why can they mandate you take a vaccine but it's your choice whether or not to end a life?  And why are Democrats such bleeding hearts when it comes to convicted murderers sentenced to die, but could give a shit about ending the life of a fetus up to a baby?

It's how we treat the most helpless among us that determines what kind of humanity we truly have.
yet your a man and should have no say about anything pertaining to abortions... Its a clump of cells basically a parasite feeding off its host. Woman who are having a abortion already know whats gonna happen they shouldnt be traumatized further with a video.

As far as vaccine versus abortion no living functioning human gets hurt if you have an abortion or dont. If you dont get vaccinated you can infect others with your disease and put there life at risk.

So you view a fetus as a parasite.  That says a lot about you.

You really think a teenage girl is an expert on the abortion procedure?  Yeah, sure. You should probably know that any human life originates from the male so yeah, I think we have a say in the matter.

I didn't get vaccinated for anyone other than my wife, my child, and me.  You're on your own, so do what you have to do.
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Re: Texas abortion law
« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2021, 07:43:29 PM »
It's been estimated that since Roe V. Wade passed 60 MILLION people have been killed. 60 million is approximately how many people were killed during World War 2.

Just think of how different our country would be if those 60 million taxpayers were alive? Seems like the "Me" generation was aborting their own future retirements with their actions.  :a102:

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Re: Texas abortion law
« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2021, 09:17:48 AM »
I can assure you
why should woman have to suffer when the man is just as responsible for the pregnancy but he gets to run off and do whatever without consequence.... Texas is justas bad as california

I can assure you Texas is nothing like Cali.
Since we are well into the 2020s I'm fairly certain both parties know what causes pregnancy. If a party or both are not ready to rear a child, they shouldn't be doing the deed that produces a child.

If there is something we were sure to teach our children, it is that having a baby isn't a game and that having one is a lifelong commitment. Having a child and raising it is their responsibility. And that choosing a partner to take on that responsibility is an awful big one.

Make Good Choices!
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Re: Texas abortion law
« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2021, 07:10:47 PM »
Amen Rich.
Is the need enough? Or does the want suffice?

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Re: Texas abortion law
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2021, 09:41:31 AM »
Some things for old men to think about cause now none of these woman can have life saving treatment in texas

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Re: Texas abortion law
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2021, 10:07:59 AM »
Some things for old men to think about cause now none of these woman can have life saving treatment in texas
I can understand the health issues here. If the mother may die during pregnancy due to the pregnancy.

However About 7% is because if fetal or physical health problems. Rape accounts for 1%, and 0.5% are because of incest.

The rest is because they don't want or can't afford a child. In these instances the action should have been taken in the bedroom and not on an innocent being that deserves a chance at life

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Re: Texas abortion law
« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2021, 10:34:30 AM »
You can throw all the talking points you want at me Dustin but it doesn't change the facts. My 1st wife developed an ectopic pregnancy in the fallopian tube. The doctor said he would have to operate to remove it or she would die. That procedure messed up her mind so much that she thought I had conspired to steal her baby and we ended up with a divorce. No law can stop a lifesaving procedure.

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Re: Texas abortion law
« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2021, 02:02:15 PM »
I believe the law does allow for some medical issue abortions. But I would believe the lefts talking points first🤔

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Re: Texas abortion law
« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2021, 02:53:47 PM »
I believe the law does allow for some medical issue abortions. But I would believe the lefts talking points first🤔
some not all medical in certain cases but say a 14 yr old got pregnant shed be made to carry to term. I dont think anyone under 18 should have a baby but kids are gonna have sex no matter what and you have to be 18 to buy condoms its unavoidablthat some kid is gonna get pregnant and i dont think there life should stop cause of 1 mistake....

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Re: Texas abortion law
« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2021, 03:25:21 PM »
I believe the law does allow for some medical issue abortions. But I would believe the lefts talking points first🤔
some not all medical in certain cases but say a 14 yr old got pregnant shed be made to carry to term. I dont think anyone under 18 should have a baby but kids are gonna have sex no matter what and you have to be 18 to buy condoms its unavoidablthat some kid is gonna get pregnant and i dont think there life should stop cause of 1 mistake....

Kids have no problem getting condoms as schools hand them out. I bought them no problem when I was 15.

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Re: Texas abortion law
« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2021, 04:24:49 PM »
I believe the law does allow for some medical issue abortions. But I would believe the lefts talking points first🤔
some not all medical in certain cases but say a 14 yr old got pregnant shed be made to carry to term. I dont think anyone under 18 should have a baby but kids are gonna have sex no matter what and you have to be 18 to buy condoms its unavoidablthat some kid is gonna get pregnant and i dont think there life should stop cause of 1 mistake....

Kids have no problem getting condoms as schools hand them out. I bought them no problem when I was 15.
well i bought some at walmart awhile ago and the lady had to put a code in the computer as age verification same as when i buy alcohol...

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Re: Texas abortion law
« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2021, 09:15:15 PM »


I believe the law does allow for some medical issue abortions. But I would believe the lefts talking points first
some not all medical in certain cases but say a 14 yr old got pregnant shed be made to carry to term. I dont think anyone under 18 should have a baby but kids are gonna have sex no matter what and you have to be 18 to buy condoms its unavoidablthat some kid is gonna get pregnant and i dont think there life should stop cause of 1 mistake....

My sister had my neice when she was 16. So because she was under 18 my neice shouldn't have been born and had the chance to become a successful vet? My sister continued to go to school and is now an NP.

Again that decision should have been made in the bed room.

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Re: Texas abortion law
« Reply #24 on: September 17, 2021, 09:20:36 AM »
If more 14 yr olds carried the kid to term and had to care for the kid it may be a deterrent to others. But just dumping a baby because it’s inconvenIent just gives them an easy out to continue making bad choices sexually. Too many kids aren’t learning that there’s consequences for your actions

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Re: Texas abortion law
« Reply #25 on: September 17, 2021, 11:50:25 AM »
Chelsea Handler, the comedian, had TWO abortions at sixteen.  I guess she didn't realize how a woman can get pregnant.  She basically laughs about them.  I can't think of too many more reprehensible things than that.

The good thing is she apparently hasn't gotten pregnant since.  She doesn't deserve to ever be a mother.
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