I guess President Trump had an ace up his sleeve?

[LukeOresk]

deleted...

[Lookin4_67GalaxieConv]

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I'll just make these observations.

Arizona was called early on election night for Biden by Fox News, with a large percentage of the vote uncounted and Biden without a huge lead.

Michigan and Wisconsin had Trump leading in both states late Tuesday, early Wednesday; in the morning Biden was leading.

Pennsylvania's attorney general (the top law enforcement official in the state) tweeted out before the election that there was no way Trump would win the state.  IIRC, Trump led the vote count until Friday when Biden took the lead.

Here in my state of Georgia, a local station was doing election coverage and early Wednesday said based on Trump's lead and the amount of votes remaining to be counted, he couldn't see how Biden had a path to winning the state.  Friday, Biden took a slim lead in the vote count. I also heard Fulton County (which contains Atlanta) sent home Republican poll watchers late Tues/early Wed with the explanation vote counting would resume in the morning, but kept counting votes early Wednesday morning.

In several close states with ballots counted after early Wednesday morning, votes went for Biden at an unnatural rate.  Add to that the fraud inherent in mail in ballots (not absentee but mail-in) and you can understand why the integrity of elections anywhere, and now in the US, are undermined.

[hickory n Steel]

According to the trump email I just got many states are recounting and many more crucial states are not official yet.
I'll have to look into the accuracy of this, but maybe hide'n has not actually officially won yet ?

I'm no pollster or political analyst but, from what I've seen and understand, Biden won only through concerted fraud. Across several states, on multiple levels, with ALOT of cohorts. Eventually if the courts have any constitutionality left President Trump will be re-elected. But half the country will refuse to accept it - no matter what evidence is presented - and it will go bloody. They would rather destroy the whole country rather than allow Trump to win. That kind of selfishness is very dangerous.

You folks who live in states that took part in the first Civil War probably have ancestors who fought in that conflict. And have personal connections to it. And have heard personal horror stories about it. You alone might be able to comprehend a conflict more than twice the geographic size - with 10X the population - and with modern weapons and very little moral leanings. Plus we have mortal global enemies willing and able to seize upon the opportunity afforded by Americans killing each other. Things will never be normal again - only various degrees of bad to worse.

It's just so crazy that the left will do what they do, but if hide'n was to be elected legally ( or say when Obama Bin laden had 8 years ) us on the right would / did grudgingly accept him as president and just be a bit sore about it.
We support the process of democracy , they just can't because they hate our nations history and what it created for us today.

[LukeOresk]

deleted.

mr oresk has been warned earlier today and chose not to comply.

this area is allowed for people who have chosen to participate in the rest of the forum. it can be earned by just posting 20 useful or on topic posts. pretty easy to do if you have been a member as long as mr oresk has and very clearly stated in  a sticky at the top of the politics page. instead he chose not to post at all until now. i could care less what his political bend may be. he is getting one week off to figure it out. if he chooses to participate the correct way  then he may. if not, he is gone, without warning.

[slip knot]

At this point it really doesn’t matter who wins. America has lost

[goodfellow]

At this point it really doesn’t matter who wins. America has lost

I don't believe that --yet! We'll see if the system that's been put in place for these instances works. If there are recounts (Trump is within his right to demand them), and Trump loses fair and square based on true audited numbers, then I'll stand with and support the new president and his administration. If the whole thing is swept under the rug, and the documented fraudulent claims are not addressed, then I'll stand with you, and will admit that the America that we knew  was lost during this election.

[slip knot]

At this point do you think the Democrats would back away and let Trump have it if its found out they cheated?? I cant see that happening.

[bonneyman]

At this point do you think the Democrats would back away and let Trump have it if its found out they cheated?? I cant see that happening.

Yeah, their track record indicates they'll snake away with it.
Lois Lerner - free
James Clapper the liar - free
Eric Holder - free
barack -free
joebiteme - free and President
Hunter the crackhead - free
James Comey - Free
Brennan the communsit - free and still has a security clearance
Hitlery - free, free, free, etc.

Just to name a few

[DeadNutz]

As far as I'm concerned Trump has at least another month to get to the bottom of this. I seem to remember the media being fine with the Bush/Gore vote in Florida not being settled until the 2nd week of December. There are more whistleblowers coming out all the time about the fraud they witnessed. Plenty of fraud right here in Nevada.

[highland512]

I was young in 2000 but I remember it well enough that Gore was the declared winner in FL so..

I have also been looking in my constitution where CNN, Fox, and AP get to declare a winner, no luck as of yet.

This election will not be over until the lawyers and SCOTUS say it's over. Im interested to see if Clarence Thomas comes marching into the court room with memories of how uncle creepy treated him during his confirmation hearings in 1991 or as Justice Thomas put it "a high tech lynching".

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4878319/user-clip-joe-biden-speech-day-2-thomas-hearing

[walrus]

At this point do you think the Democrats would back away and let Trump have it if its found out they cheated?? I cant see that happening.

Yeah, their track record indicates they'll snake away with it.
Lois Lerner - free
James Clapper the liar - free
Eric Holder - free
barack -free
joebiteme - free and President
Hunter the crackhead - free
James Comey - Free
Brennan the communsit - free and still has a security clearance
Hitlery - free, free, free, etc.

Just to name a few

You would think with all those alleged criminals, Trumps justice dept could get an indictment or 2.

[Lookin4_67GalaxieConv]

At this point do you think the Democrats would back away and let Trump have it if its found out they cheated?? I cant see that happening.

Yeah, their track record indicates they'll snake away with it.
Lois Lerner - free
James Clapper the liar - free
Eric Holder - free
barack -free
joebiteme - free and President
Hunter the crackhead - free
James Comey - Free
Brennan the communsit - free and still has a security clearance
Hitlery - free, free, free, etc.

Just to name a few

You would think with all those alleged criminals, Trumps justice dept could get an indictment or 2.

Agreed.  I'd like to know the machinations of what's been going on.

[muddy]

With the situation like this I can understand why people my age have no faith in this country or system.

I'm not one of them. If it's all fair and biden legitimately won, he's my president. I'll ride through the next four years as best we can.

On the hand that it is fraud, where do we go from here? Once a dog bites is it ever trusted again?

Sent from the twisted mind of the  Mudman

[slip knot]

At this point do you think the Democrats would back away and let Trump have it if its found out they cheated?? I cant see that happening.

Yeah, their track record indicates they'll snake away with it.
Lois Lerner - free
James Clapper the liar - free
Eric Holder - free
barack -free
joebiteme - free and President
Hunter the crackhead - free
James Comey - Free
Brennan the communsit - free and still has a security clearance
Hitlery - free, free, free, etc.

Just to name a few

You would think with all those alleged criminals, Trumps justice dept could get an indictment or 2.

If the media had given them even a 1/4 of the exhaustive coverage Trump has received, I'm sure they would already be in prison.

[slip knot]

With the situation like this I can understand why people my age have no faith in this country or system.

I'm not one of them. If it's all fair and biden legitimately won, he's my president. I'll ride through the next four years as best we can.

On the hand that it is fraud, where do we go from here? Once a dog bites is it ever trusted again?

Sent from the twisted mind of the  Mudman

Completely understandable Muddy, even us older guys are fed up with the system. It seems that the politicos can get away with anything and nothing happens. The ruling class seems to get a pass on just about anything. I'm sick and tired of my tax dollars being wasted on investigations and witch hunts and nothing happens to the perpetrators. If fraud was found in this election whomever was found breaking the laws should do some long prison time. The one thing that makes this country great is the ability to vote for our government. Take that away and we dont have much left