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The Quest for the perfect pocket screwdriver
« on: November 22, 2023, 06:17:41 PM »
I'm going to document my journey for that perfect pocket driver. having used them for 30 years and trying different styles I've set out to find the one that just works the best for me. The right size, versatile tips, comfort in use, not breaking the bank expensive. I have alot of pictures to post and will fill them in over time. for right now I'll just set up the template and add the pics later.

If you guys have any pocket screwdrivers that you like, post 'em up!

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Re: The Quest for the perfect pocket screwdriver
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2023, 06:18:33 PM »
Here's some standard freebie drivers.

The top "Trane" was a standard give-away, with a reversible standard/phillips shank. Used ones like this for years. But the tips were kinda soft, and with the newer stats, often would bend or damage the over-tight screws.

The Next one was a newer style with a triangular profile. Easier to get a grip and turn, but not much better shanks.

The third one was a real step up as far as features go. reversible shank, core remover, and an integral level. So, three tools in the pocket protector got replaced by one! Older mercury-bulb stats needed to be level to operate correctly. But as new electronic stats became popular, levelness wasn't necessary for operation. Only aesthetics.

The bottom one was one I picked up at a thrift store. Has a #1 phillips and a T6 Torx. Knurled grip was nice, but - as with all of these types - as my hands and fingers stiffened up were harder and harder to hold.
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Re: The Quest for the perfect pocket screwdriver
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2023, 06:19:14 PM »
Name brand specialty models that I switched to.
The top is a Snap-On core removal tool (lists for $18), but their pocket driver has the same handle (lists for $15 and change). Next to Proto Bet-R-Grips I like their handles the best.

The next is an Enderes pocket driver. Shanks in their multi-bit drivers are forged and very tough. So when I came across a pocket version I snagged it.

The bottom is a Proto yellow handle I made into a pocket driver. A bit larger than the Enderes with the nice grippy grooves. And not much longer overall. Though I've been told it's not a pocket driver if it has no pocket clip. Oh well!
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Re: The Quest for the perfect pocket screwdriver
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2023, 06:20:02 PM »
Some more recent entries into the field that I didn't get to use for work but I grabbed them when I found them.

The top is a Ring driver - I'm guessing it's used for installing those Ring Doorbell camera units. #1 phillips and what looks like a T6 torx bit, ball detent secured. Decent shape for my hands but a bit small and too smooth. Later versions seem to have a hexagonal handle shape so could be better.

The NEST driver is the right size but way too smooth, and the hex opening holding the bit is too thin. I'm thinking it's not made for contractor use, just occasional homeowner adjustments. Maybe a coating of truck bed paint with sand grip would help? Plus a ring support for the hex opening. #1 phillips and a 1/8" standard bit end, with magnetic holding it in. Overall not bad.

The bottom driver is my working prototype (pun intended!) of a yellow handle one size up from the smallest. The grooves and flutes really allow a good grip, and it's small enough to fit in a pocket protector. Working on getting the bits being held securely
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Re: The Quest for the perfect pocket screwdriver
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2023, 06:21:14 PM »
You all know how much I like the Proto yellow handle style for comfort. Trying to fashion one after a Snap-On version that I saw on line. Here's my two Proto DIY drivers side by side. If I can get the bigger one to work I might call it the "Oversize Pocket Screwdriver".

Here's the link to the Snappy. $20 for a pocket screwdriver. Sheesh!
https://shop.snapon.com/product/Pocket-Screwdrivers-with-Reversible-Bit/Pocket-Screwdriver-with-Reversible-Bit-(Red)/SDDDM1AR
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Re: The Quest for the perfect pocket screwdriver
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2023, 06:24:34 PM »
This Kinetic Driver came up on YouTube about 2 years ago and I did make my own version of it. It does work really well on super-small screws like in DVD players.


Here's my homemade version:
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The Quest for the perfect pocket screwdriver
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2023, 10:46:12 AM »
I have some that came off the SO truck many years ago, and they are very good. They look like all the other freebie magnetic pocket drivers that were available at the time, but these things have held up so well I’m in awe. I’ve lost some if them, and others have “walked” out of my shop in friends’ shirt pockets — LOL


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Re: The Quest for the perfect pocket screwdriver
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2023, 01:34:25 PM »
There's been alot of mini-bit drivers that have come out for small work like electronics and such. I have a bunch of different styles but the main problem is keeping track of all those bits. And - them being so tiny makes it hard to grab and maneuver them while working.

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Re: The Quest for the perfect pocket screwdriver
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2023, 01:36:32 PM »
Currently my "working group" of small drivers are these.

The Inertial driver, my pair of DIY Proto's, a Lutz 4-in-1 for small screws, and a 1" EASYDRIVER ball for repetitive and stuck screws.

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Re: The Quest for the perfect pocket screwdriver
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2023, 01:41:12 PM »
For those looking to just buy a specialty pocket driver Alexander has a wide variety of tip styles and features. Albeit there are minimum buying quantities.

https://alexandermc.com/product-detail/Pocket-Partner%E2%84%A2-Reversible-Screwdriver/180


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Re: The Quest for the perfect pocket screwdriver
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2023, 01:53:40 PM »
Came across this site. "Why I'm Broke" .com!

https://www.thisiswhyimbroke.com/pocket-sized-edc-screwdriver/

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Re: The Quest for the perfect pocket screwdriver
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2023, 05:02:15 PM »
I had an Ace hardware knockoff of the Enderes ( was actually good quality) which seemed the most ideal to me, and I would personally go with the enderes if I wanted to carry a pocket screwdriver.

The current 100 plus / PROTO / Blackhawk pocket screwdriver has the best clip design I've seen beyond the Craftsman, but it's not reversible.

Made in Taiwan which is a deal breaker for me, but they are only $1.95 from Zorro.
https://www.zoro.com/stanley-pocket-clip-slotted-screwdriver-18-in-round-66-101-a/i/G7745300/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=surfaces&utm_campaign=shopping%20feed&utm_content=free%20google%20shopping%20clicks&campaignid=20749401279&productid=G7745300&v=&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAjfyqBhAsEiwA-UdzJHTweiHcUNT8_-k3E7QJ-ggDmnJEb7fbwJ0Lsv3_pImoZ5KvJY5_0hoC6iUQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
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Re: The Quest for the perfect pocket screwdriver
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2023, 05:21:59 PM »
I don't carry a pocket screwdriver because my Victorinox rambler ( like the little classic with an extra tool )has the 2 driver sizes, but I do carry a shortened Mayhew mini pry bar in my pocket organizer.

I really like this Mayhew handle ( a Channellock blue version swapped with one of my picks ) and I think it would be a very ideal handle for a pocket screwdriver.
They also use it for their new micro screwdrivers, and I'm hoping they eventually offer a pocket screwdriver too.

https://mayhew.com/products/screwdrivers/mayhew-usa-micro-screwdrivers-sets
This heyco isn't exactly pocket sized, but it's not too big and you might like it.
https://www.kctool.com/heyco-reversible-blade-screwdriver-phillips-slotted/?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAjfyqBhAsEiwA-UdzJAw_vr1V3G-rqoEajgcA2aikbPIEH2RwAz_OPRp2pQwoiX9f0A9yghoCcqQQAvD_BwE


Have you checked out this $15 Klein ?
https://www.kleintools.com/catalog/multi-bit-screwdrivers/multi-bit-electronics-pocket-screwdriver-4-1-ph-sl-bits
Screwdrivers are another no China or Taiwan tool category for me, but these are pretty popular.
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Re: The Quest for the perfect pocket screwdriver
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2023, 09:20:22 PM »
I carry the bent snap on mini pry bar everyday to work.

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Re: The Quest for the perfect pocket screwdriver
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2023, 09:54:18 PM »
This site has alot of great ideas! I really like this one, though it's probably too small a diameter. But holding 10 tools! Damn!


https://www.commandoproducts.com/precisionpocketscrewdriversetwith5flatblades3phillipbladesscribeawlandpunchallstoredinsidehandle.aspx

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Re: The Quest for the perfect pocket screwdriver
« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2023, 04:07:44 PM »
Would this Moody be considered a pocket screwdriver?
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Re: The Quest for the perfect pocket screwdriver
« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2023, 06:31:39 PM »
I'd call that a "precision screwdriver", meant for tiny work on like watches, electronics, and eyeglasses. That finger pad on the end supports the forefinger, allowing the other fingers and thumb to turn the barrel.

But that's just me.

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Re: The Quest for the perfect pocket screwdriver
« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2023, 07:13:03 PM »
I'd call that a "precision screwdriver", meant for tiny work on like watches, electronics, and eyeglasses. That finger pad on the end supports the forefinger, allowing the other fingers and thumb to turn the barrel.

But that's just me.
Yes I know it's a precision screwdriver,  but I figured it's probably intended for pocket carry as opposed to the other version I have in the little stand up plastic holder.
I mean the vinyl pouch for this set is kind of annoying to deal with, and the only reason I for it i can think of is pocket carry.
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Re: The Quest for the perfect pocket screwdriver
« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2023, 07:20:14 PM »
By the way, I don't think having a clip should be a necessity for a pocket screwdriver, it certainly isn't for my mini pry bar because I have a yellow birch outfitters pocket organizer in my left front pocket .


However I understand that pocket organizers ( not the shirt pocket protector ) are a bit of a new school thing, so maybe the clip is a legitimate requirement?
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Re: The Quest for the perfect pocket screwdriver
« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2023, 01:04:16 PM »
By the way, I don't think having a clip should be a necessity for a pocket screwdriver, it certainly isn't for my mini pry bar because I have a yellow birch outfitters pocket organizer in my left front pocket .


However I understand that pocket organizers ( not the shirt pocket protector ) are a bit of a new school thing, so maybe the clip is a legitimate requirement?
 

I never really liked those plastic pocket protectors myself, but I worked for companies who would charge you for wear on their shirts that they considered outside normal use. Pocket tools with clips would eventually tear and rip the breast pockets, and the cleaning company would note that on their bill. You got cleaning, pressing, and some stain removal included in the service fee - constant rips or pocket tears were "undue wear" and you got penalized. So I wore protectors to avoid that.
And I've dropped more electronic thermometers in evap coolers than I can count, so, I always had clips on my small tools.

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Re: The Quest for the perfect pocket screwdriver
« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2023, 06:46:23 PM »
I carry my leatherman and accessory pocket sheath at work,  and instead of a reversible pocket screwdriver I carry this bit ratchet.


This version is the GM powertorque from O'riley auto parts but it's the same manufacturer ( HI-FIVE in Taiwan) as the Icon, MAC, Facom, all of the VIM bit ratchets...etc. there's too many to list but this style variant is most offered by bicycle tool kit brands like Topeak.
I like it much better than the box wrench style because it can carry another bit in the end of the handle.
I find it to be an excellent alternative to a pocket screwdriver when driving screws is the sole purpose,  I get probing and picking with a pocket driver which this won't do.
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Re: The Quest for the perfect pocket screwdriver
« Reply #21 on: November 27, 2023, 08:56:09 PM »
Speaking of pocket screwdrivers.... Anyone still use a pocket protector?

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Re: The Quest for the perfect pocket screwdriver
« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2023, 09:40:37 PM »
Speaking of pocket screwdrivers.... Anyone still use a pocket protector?

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I used them to I left HVAC, and for the time I was at Ace Hardware. They used to be given out like candy at all the warehouses, but dried up and you couldn't get more than 1 - even if you asked. I inquired one buddy at a warehouse, and he gave me the last stack they had. Probably 30-40. Been whittling down through that pile.

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Re: The Quest for the perfect pocket screwdriver
« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2023, 10:01:04 PM »
I carry my leatherman and accessory pocket sheath at work,  and instead of a reversible pocket screwdriver I carry this bit ratchet.


This version is the GM powertorque from O'riley auto parts but it's the same manufacturer ( HI-FIVE in Taiwan) as the Icon, MAC, Facom, all of the VIM bit ratchets...etc. there's too many to list but this style variant is most offered by bicycle tool kit brands like Topeak.
I like it much better than the box wrench style because it can carry another bit in the end of the handle.
I find it to be an excellent alternative to a pocket screwdriver when driving screws is the sole purpose,  I get probing and picking with a pocket driver which this won't do.

Good assemblage. For awhile I carried a pair of farmers pliers. The plier, small crescent, and standard driver end was just so useful. Almost went to two pocket protectors - then I realized I was going overboard. Eventually I went to a small Husky tote box, tape measure and Maglite on the belt, and a pocket protector with minimal tools. That seemed to carry me thru my final A/C years.

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Re: The Quest for the perfect pocket screwdriver
« Reply #24 on: November 29, 2023, 06:35:21 PM »
my personal favorites are the Snap-on hard handle pocket clip drivers (not the promo versions, actual Snap-on in orange) plus the newer pocket prybars

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Re: The Quest for the perfect pocket screwdriver
« Reply #25 on: November 29, 2023, 09:13:10 PM »
my personal favorites are the Snap-on hard handle pocket clip drivers (not the promo versions, actual Snap-on in orange) plus the newer pocket prybars

I'm keeping my eyes open for a Snap-On black hard handle pocket driver. Just not $18-20.

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Re: The Quest for the perfect pocket screwdriver
« Reply #26 on: November 29, 2023, 10:21:36 PM »
I am not a big fan of PB Swiss, but I did like this pocket screw driver for EDC until I lost the cap. I liked it becase it didn't poke hole in my shirt pocket.
Might have to tie on a lanyard if I get another.
I have tried the Klein mini pocket screwdriver, but it fell apart So I am still looking for the right one also.

https://www.pbswisstools.com/en/tools/quality-hand-tools/mobile-sets/product/pb-169

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Re: The Quest for the perfect pocket screwdriver
« Reply #27 on: November 30, 2023, 10:09:42 AM »
I am not a big fan of PB Swiss, but I did like this pocket screw driver for EDC until I lost the cap. I liked it becase it didn't poke hole in my shirt pocket.
Might have to tie on a lanyard if I get another.
I have tried the Klein mini pocket screwdriver, but it fell apart So I am still looking for the right one also.

https://www.pbswisstools.com/en/tools/quality-hand-tools/mobile-sets/product/pb-169

Shoot - that's a nice one, too! 

P.S. $21 on Amazonian. Yikes!
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Re: The Quest for the perfect pocket screwdriver
« Reply #28 on: November 30, 2023, 01:20:35 PM »
I am not a big fan of PB Swiss, but I did like this pocket screw driver for EDC until I lost the cap. I liked it becase it didn't poke hole in my shirt pocket.
Might have to tie on a lanyard if I get another.
I have tried the Klein mini pocket screwdriver, but it fell apart So I am still looking for the right one also.

https://www.pbswisstools.com/en/tools/quality-hand-tools/mobile-sets/product/pb-169

Shoot - that's a nice one, too! 

P.S. $21 on Amazonian. Yikes!
I was going to suggest that one, but I wasn't sure it would provide the kind of grip you had in mind.

I've heard good things and thought about getting one because they're cool / interesting but I wouldn't carry it so I have resisted the urge to buy.
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Re: The Quest for the perfect pocket screwdriver
« Reply #29 on: November 30, 2023, 02:55:59 PM »
I am not a big fan of PB Swiss, but I did like this pocket screw driver for EDC until I lost the cap. I liked it becase it didn't poke hole in my shirt pocket.
Might have to tie on a lanyard if I get another.
I have tried the Klein mini pocket screwdriver, but it fell apart So I am still looking for the right one also.

https://www.pbswisstools.com/en/tools/quality-hand-tools/mobile-sets/product/pb-169

Shoot - that's a nice one, too! 

P.S. $21 on Amazonian. Yikes!
I was going to suggest that one, but I wasn't sure it would provide the kind of grip you had in mind.

I've heard good things and thought about getting one because they're cool / interesting but I wouldn't carry it so I have resisted the urge to buy.

Yeah, the size/shape is a bit too small - I was just dazzled by the bit variety and bit storage. PB Swiss seems to do some nice stuff.

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Re: The Quest for the perfect pocket screwdriver
« Reply #30 on: April 22, 2024, 09:58:38 AM »
I don't think anyone mentioned the Wiha pocket drivers?
The knurled handle might be big enough to grip, for tiny stuff at least, and the 4mm bits store in the handle.
https://www.wihatools.com/products/sys-4-empty-aluminum-micro-bit-storage-handle?_pos=7&_psq=microbit&_ss=e&_v=1.0

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Re: The Quest for the perfect pocket screwdriver
« Reply #31 on: April 23, 2024, 12:55:31 AM »
Check this thing out.


I never knew AT&G made anything else but the 4 in 1 drivers that I have a pair of and I think this thing is cool, but apparently they're pretty uncommon and people tend to want $35+ for them on Ebay.
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Re: The Quest for the perfect pocket screwdriver
« Reply #32 on: April 24, 2024, 11:05:55 AM »
I've had one since the early 90's.  Don't remember where it came from.  It and a Super Leatherman have been a snap top case in the console of whatever my daily driver has been.

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« Reply #33 on: April 24, 2024, 11:29:43 AM »
I've had one since the early 90's.  Don't remember where it came from.  It and a Super Leatherman have been a snap top case in the console of whatever my daily driver has been.
Are the bits hard to get in and out ?
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« Reply #34 on: April 25, 2024, 12:20:33 PM »
Came across this SS beauty the other day. Nice and compact, all metal construction, designed and assembled in the USA.

https://kmotorperformance.com/shop/stainless-steel-pocket-screwdriver-with-magnet-clip-phillips-flat-k20-tools/

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« Reply #35 on: April 25, 2024, 04:47:45 PM »
I have seen those before, K20 also offers a skinny pen sized style.
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Re: The Quest for the perfect pocket screwdriver
« Reply #36 on: April 25, 2024, 07:54:37 PM »
That folding T handle driver is a must have for me.  Working at a car dealership always had one in my pocket, great for under dash repairs, always had Philips 1-2-3s, + straight tip which saved a lot of running back to the tool box.  Found my first one marked Crescent, in a box next to the cash register in my local hardware.  It is my shop somewhere.

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Re: The Quest for the perfect pocket screwdriver
« Reply #37 on: April 26, 2024, 10:00:35 AM »
This bent shank type is great for sticking in a hip pocket. They used to come with computers we sold 30+ years ago, and everyone in the shop had a few. Can't find'em anywhere now.

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Re: The Quest for the perfect pocket screwdriver
« Reply #38 on: April 26, 2024, 10:46:09 AM »
Bits are not hard to get out, but mine have detent balls in lieu of o-rings.  I got mine in S. Florida around 2000.  Either at Restoration hHardware or at Brookstone.  Both stores were newly opened on a project in W.P.B.  Now that you mentioned it, I wouldn't mind having the same setup in all of my vehicles.  Torx tips have also been useful.

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« Reply #39 on: April 26, 2024, 10:26:10 PM »
Bits are not hard to get out, but mine have detent balls in lieu of o-rings.  I got mine in S. Florida around 2000.  Either at Restoration hHardware or at Brookstone.  Both stores were newly opened on a project in W.P.B.  Now that you mentioned it, I wouldn't mind having the same setup in all of my vehicles.  Torx tips have also been useful.
I wonder if that means AT&G never actually manufactured their own products ?

Btw I never knew Nite-ize made a mini pock-its, that's cool.
I have an original regular sized Pock-its that I carried at work up until a couple years ago when the velcro finally stopped holding and the things I was carrying just kind if changed.
My dad carried it when I was a kid and gave it to me when I was a teenager and he had stopped using it.

I wish they'd reintroduce the mini, but also use a snap instead of the velcro.
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