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Inflation bites me on the hiney!

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bonneyman:

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--- Quote from: slip knot on January 21, 2024, 06:37:33 PM ---$17/hour isn't enough to live on. The local Dairy queen is paying that for all positions. if they're still living at home $17 is good money but out on your own it aint cutting it. Around here a decent one bedroom apartment will take half your monthly pay. Add in car, insurance, phone, electric bill and TV and there isn't much left. The cost of living is outpacing salarys by at least double.

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Minimum wage is not livable. However it was never meant to be lived on in my opinion. The problem is today. Kids don't start working till say 18 or 20. They either have no skills and/or massive college debt ( which is another racket).

Everyone from my parents generation always say they started out with nothing and kept working their way up to be where they are.

I milked cows at 15 for $7 an hr. But from saving money and learning all I could and  moving up in the ladder I'm in a comfortable place with a wife and two kids.


I think it's just as much a moral/drive issue as it is inflation. This generation see what past generations have worked for and thinks it just came easy and should come easier to them.



Sent from my twisted mind of the mudman

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Well said, Tim!

skfarmer:
very well said muddy.

as a farm kid,  my dad always found stuff for me to do so side jobs were few. mostly harvest and or other farm type jobs.as i got older and trying to get going a worked many side jobs. i delivered/repaired appliances. i installed/repaired furnaces. i worked in a radio shack/rental store and i did a couple miserable winters doing millwright/grain elevator repair.  i still have some side jobs i do. rumor has that i may have a substitute teachers liscense.

slip knot:
yeah I get it. I started washing cars at a Texaco station for $5 a car when I was 10-12 or so. In High School I bought a 3 1/2 acre piece of property all on my own for $6000. That property is now worth $150K. Not many kids could afford that nowdays.

The problem I have is this is no longer the 50,s 60,s 70, or even 80,s anymore and yeah those kids may lack initiative, ambition and skills. BUT we still need them in the workforce. My Dept Director and I were discussing this exact thing this morning. In Texas, you need a state certification to run a pubic water or wastewater system. there are @3500-4000 certified people in Texas. 60% of those folks are retirement age. My department is at 60% staffed. We've had openings for 3+ years and cant attract anyone at our current wage of $19-$25 DOE. We must get people to start working at these jobs or face some dire consequences in the near future. The companies like the Dairy Queen I mentioned earlier have already seen that and have upped their game to attract a better applicant. They will probably do OK. But those who ignore these kids needs will end up paying the ultimate price.

TexasT:
I had a contact at our city water dept when I lost employment last summer. Went round with them but as you point out the accreditation was more than they were willing to cede to get me on while i went and got the credentials. They seemed short sighted about it but the guy I know down there didn't have the fuzz to sway their decisions. There seem to be quite a few careers out there that the bulk of the labor is on the verge of retirement. Just seems like every place is taking the wait and see what happens instead of being proactive.

Not sure what is in store for the next decade or so, but I do know these gen z types are gonna have an easy time finding work as as the boomers retire and die off there wont be near the amount of worker looking to fill those positions.  No wonder they keep pushing these robots and automation.

muddy:

--- Quote from: slip knot on January 23, 2024, 08:50:52 PM ---yeah I get it. I started washing cars at a Texaco station for $5 a car when I was 10-12 or so. In High School I bought a 3 1/2 acre piece of property all on my own for $6000. That property is now worth $150K. Not many kids could afford that nowdays.

The problem I have is this is no longer the 50,s 60,s 70, or even 80,s anymore and yeah those kids may lack initiative, ambition and skills. BUT we still need them in the workforce. My Dept Director and I were discussing this exact thing this morning. In Texas, you need a state certification to run a pubic water or wastewater system. there are @3500-4000 certified people in Texas. 60% of those folks are retirement age. My department is at 60% staffed. We've had openings for 3+ years and cant attract anyone at our current wage of $19-$25 DOE. We must get people to start working at these jobs or face some dire consequences in the near future. The companies like the Dairy Queen I mentioned earlier have already seen that and have upped their game to attract a better applicant. They will probably do OK. But those who ignore these kids needs will end up paying the ultimate price.

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Jobs like that, that require certification and years experience are valid for higher wages.

Seen it at many a job where the employer isn't willing to pay what the applicant is actually worth and in the long run end up getting what they are willing to pay for....inexperienced or lazy

It's almost a problem on both ends employees and employer.

Sent from my twisted mind of the mudman

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