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Offline fatfillup

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Is diversity a good thing?
« on: January 04, 2019, 04:26:40 PM »
Been giving this some thought lately as it seems diversity is being touted as good by the progressives but I wonder. 

And I am not referring so much to race as I am religion.  It seems mixing of religions in a geographical location causes problems.  You need look no further then Europe and see the problems caused by mixing of Muslims and Christians.  And of course the Middle East with Muslims and Jews and Christians too. 

I know in the Old Testament that God commanded Israel not to marry outside of the Jewish race.  He knew if Jews married Gentiles they would abandon Him and chase foreign gods.  And of course they didn't listen and got carried off into exile time after time. 

Most of you know I am a Christian, as many here are but in my experience, if the Baptists can't get along with the Methodist's and Catholics, how the heck can we get along with folks with a totally different belief system. 

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Re: Is diversity a good thing?
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2019, 05:23:17 PM »
I think diversity is a tool of the left and always has been. I have no problems with anyone, or any of their religions etc. I have a problem with anything that is essentially a political tool which is what I have always thought the whole "diversity" issue is, a tool of the left, so I am skeptical and do not trust the motives of those pushing the issue.
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Re: Is diversity a good thing?
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2019, 05:27:12 PM »
I have the right to remain silent.  ;)

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Re: Is diversity a good thing?
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2019, 05:41:22 PM »
Diversity is being legislated and made into a political football for one single purpose -- to divide this country (as outlined by Saul Alinsky in his infamous guidebook for radicals). The more you can pigeon hole people into special interest groups under the guise of diversity, and appeal to their "special status" as a way to pit them against other special interest groups; the more power government demands as a way to arbitrate the disputes among the special interests.

Contrary to what the progressives and the educational establishment teaches; It isn't diversity that makes America great -- it's the things we all have in common as a people that make us great. Common sense values, the importance of the family unit as the fundamental core of our society, and most importantly the belief in American exceptionalism as it impacts all men regardless of race/creed/color.

Leftist Alinksy followers knew full well (even back in the mid-20th century) that in order to undermine our country, they would first have to denigrate/destroy our institutions (family, church, schools, and eventually government) -- Diversity was/is one of the weapons they chose to achieve these goals.

I had a very leftist Professor back in college in the 1970's -- more left than most back in the day, and he was a committed Alinskyite. He let it be known publicly in class that his goal (and that of many of his peers) for the long term was to divide the races (through diversity), take over the K-12 schools, and destroy the religious base of the United States. Almost fifty years later, as I look back, I tend to believe they almost succeeded.
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Re: Is diversity a good thing?
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2019, 11:19:51 AM »
Thank you Ray for providing a better explanation of my position and what I was trying to say than I was able to express. I greatly appreciate that!
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Re: Is diversity a good thing?
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2019, 01:13:50 PM »
Diversity is being legislated and made into a political football for one single purpose -- to divide this country (as outlined by Saul Alinsky in his infamous guidebook for radicals). The more you can pigeon hole people into special interest groups under the guise of diversity, and appeal to their "special status" as a way to pit them against other special interest groups; the more power government demands as a way to arbitrate the disputes among the special interests.

Contrary to what the progressives and the educational establishment teaches; It isn't diversity that makes America great -- it's the things we all have in common as a people that make us great. Common sense values, the importance of the family unit as the fundamental core of our society, and most importantly the belief in American exceptionalism as it impacts all men regardless of race/creed/color.

Leftist Alinksy followers knew full well (even back in the mid-20th century) that in order to undermine our country, they would first have to denigrate/destroy our institutions (family, church, schools, and eventually government) -- Diversity was/is one of the weapons they chose to achieve these goals.

I had a very leftist Professor back in college in the 1970's -- more left than most back in the day, and he was a committed Alinskyite. He let it be known publicly in class that his goal (and that of many of his peers) for the long term was to divide the races (through diversity), take over the K-12 schools, and destroy the religious base of the United States. Almost fifty years later, as I look back, I tend to believe they almost succeeded.
What are they going to gain by destroying the USA? Money? Power?

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Re: Is diversity a good thing?
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2019, 02:08:35 PM »
Diversity is being legislated and made into a political football for one single purpose -- to divide this country (as outlined by Saul Alinsky in his infamous guidebook for radicals). The more you can pigeon hole people into special interest groups under the guise of diversity, and appeal to their "special status" as a way to pit them against other special interest groups; the more power government demands as a way to arbitrate the disputes among the special interests.

Contrary to what the progressives and the educational establishment teaches; It isn't diversity that makes America great -- it's the things we all have in common as a people that make us great. Common sense values, the importance of the family unit as the fundamental core of our society, and most importantly the belief in American exceptionalism as it impacts all men regardless of race/creed/color.

Leftist Alinksy followers knew full well (even back in the mid-20th century) that in order to undermine our country, they would first have to denigrate/destroy our institutions (family, church, schools, and eventually government) -- Diversity was/is one of the weapons they chose to achieve these goals.

I had a very leftist Professor back in college in the 1970's -- more left than most back in the day, and he was a committed Alinskyite. He let it be known publicly in class that his goal (and that of many of his peers) for the long term was to divide the races (through diversity), take over the K-12 schools, and destroy the religious base of the United States. Almost fifty years later, as I look back, I tend to believe they almost succeeded.
What are they going to gain by destroying the USA? Money? Power?

That is a VERY good question. Read Alinsky -- he lays is out; a country based on true socialist principles, without religion (government will take the place of religion), or capitalist interference. If you follow along with the premise laid out by Alinsky -- Government will become the ultimate power broker and arbiter in all things that impact society. I tend to think of it as Orwell's 1984 on steroids --

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Re: Is diversity a good thing?
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2019, 02:12:52 PM »
Phil the Baptists can't get along with themselves, at least the southern Baptists.

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Re: Is diversity a good thing?
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2019, 02:23:48 PM »
Phil the Baptists can't get along with themselves, at least the southern Baptists.

I am Southern Baptist and I get along with all of the others.  :)
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Re: Is diversity a good thing?
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2019, 03:01:48 PM »
The sad part of the whole 'diversity" thing is how most younger folks have had the "diversity" thing drilled into them since kindergarten to the point that it is almost a religious thing with them. I asked my 17YO daughter to read Rays post explaining the whole thing and as I expected she became agitated and quite upset. As I knew before we were done talking she once again was busy labeling me a racist like she has done on a number of occasions in the past.

I am done being called a racist by a snot nosed kid, even if she is my kid. I responded to her name by dismissing her as the socialist snowflake that she is, which caused the wife to jump into the fray and defend our darling daughter.

I told the wife that she and the daughter could both get over it. I told the wife that if our daughter was going to call people racists then she better get used to being called unflattering names in return that was just the way the game is played and being my daughter gives her no free pass to call me a racist. In the end I told the wife and daughter they could both get over it and get used to it.

It is hell watching your kid turn into looney shrill lefty I tell you. The 17 YO is beyond hope at this point too, that girl is just cooked.  :(
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Re: Is diversity a good thing?
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2019, 03:44:14 PM »
Don't give up Herb and don't let it get you down. Remember an old saying (though often falsely attributed to Winston Churchill) .....this quote was most likely first uttered by mid-nineteenth century historian and statesman François Guizot when he observed..........

......"Not to be a republican at 20 is proof of want of heart; to be one at 30 is proof of want of head".......

"Life" is the best teacher of all. When many young folks are carefree and without responsibility, socialist principles make very good sense. Then comes the responsibility of jobs, family, mortgages, taxes, and planning for retirement -- many, (not all) become much more conservative along the way. 

Case in point! I personally canvassed for George McGovern back in my youth, because I was absolutely sure Nixon was going to sink this country. By the time Jimmy Carter was in office I had a job, mortgage, and was planning for my future -- at that point old Ronnie Reagan's views were looking a lot more in line with my interests than old Jimmy or George's -- LOL
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Re: Is diversity a good thing?
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2019, 03:58:03 PM »
Herb my comment was not meant to be ugly, the church I'm a member in has split at least 3 times. One reason there are so many churches around here.

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Re: Is diversity a good thing?
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2019, 03:59:56 PM »
Herb my comment was not meant to be ugly, the church I'm a member in has split at least 3 times. One reason there are so many churches around here.

I knew you did not have malicious intent. Honestly, I do know there is truth in the comment too!
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Re: Is diversity a good thing?
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2019, 04:01:48 PM »
I must have always been old, or wise beyond my years. I have always been conservative, even when younger.
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Re: Is diversity a good thing?
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2019, 04:11:22 PM »
Herb my comment was not meant to be ugly, the church I'm a member in has split at least 3 times. One reason there are so many churches around here.

A lot of that going on Fins -- Methodists, Anglicans, and Roman Catholics are all starting to question their Church doctrines. The splits will most likely continue unabated.