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TOOLS AND THE SHOP => MECHANIC HAND TOOLS WE USE => Topic started by: Elroy on October 21, 2020, 04:08:41 PM

Title: May Elroy Seek Your Recommendation
Post by: Elroy on October 21, 2020, 04:08:41 PM
The power steering pump on the '04 GMC Canyon is noisy. Pump needs to be replaced. Seeking your recommendation on a puller / installer for the serpentine pulley. Please advise accordingly
Title: Re: May Elroy Seek Your Recommendation
Post by: bonneyman on October 21, 2020, 04:38:52 PM
The power steering on my '04 Astrovan is starting to feel a bit funny. Maybe it's the pump?

But I have no way of doing that kind of job myself. I'm preparing myself to have the car mechanic appropriate my stimulus check. :38:
Title: Re: May Elroy Seek Your Recommendation
Post by: ken w. on October 21, 2020, 05:08:10 PM
  The puller they sell at HF or the auto part stores work pretty good. I'm not sure how long it would last in a shop setting tho.
Title: Re: May Elroy Seek Your Recommendation
Post by: slip knot on October 21, 2020, 05:31:18 PM
  The puller they sell at HF or the auto part stores work pretty good. I'm not sure how long it would last in a shop setting tho.

The puller part of that set works pretty good, the installer side can be a PITA tho.
Title: Re: May Elroy Seek Your Recommendation
Post by: muddy on October 21, 2020, 09:29:27 PM
  The puller they sell at HF or the auto part stores work pretty good. I'm not sure how long it would last in a shop setting tho.
Something tells me Elroy does not and will not set foot in HF....

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Title: Re: May Elroy Seek Your Recommendation
Post by: ken w. on October 21, 2020, 09:57:10 PM
I understand not wanting to step in HF. But , made in China is made in China who's name is on it. The Mac P/S puller I have is made in China.
Title: Re: May Elroy Seek Your Recommendation
Post by: highland512 on October 22, 2020, 02:33:16 PM
I understand not wanting to step in HF. But , made in China is made in China who's name is on it. The Mac P/S puller I have is made in China.

This is a sad fact, I finally have given up to the fact that china made crap from big names doesn't seem to be any better china made crap from HF.

I purchased the gear puller from HF to use on the crank pulley on my Oliver motor. It did the job I needed it for and now lives in the bottom drawer of the tool box. 
Title: Re: May Elroy Seek Your Recommendation
Post by: goodfellow on October 22, 2020, 04:26:57 PM
I have the same set as HF, but branded Astro Pneumatic. I does the job, and has installed several pulleys. That said, many of the toot truck sets are now also imports from China and Taiwan.
Title: Re: May Elroy Seek Your Recommendation
Post by: highland512 on October 27, 2020, 12:36:26 PM
Can you ask Elroy what he decided to get?
Title: Re: May Elroy Seek Your Recommendation
Post by: Elroy on October 27, 2020, 03:23:07 PM
Can you ask Elroy what he decided to get?

Just like Ray, Elroy is now complete with an Astro by his side. :)
Title: Re: May Elroy Seek Your Recommendation
Post by: goodfellow on October 27, 2020, 05:04:35 PM
Can you ask Elroy what he decided to get?

Just like Ray, Elroy is now complete with an Astro by his side. :)

As a famous and important man once said ........ "Good boy Elroy!"  -- LOL
Title: Re: May Elroy Seek Your Recommendation
Post by: muddy on October 27, 2020, 07:47:40 PM
Can you ask Elroy what he decided to get?

Just like Ray, Elroy is now complete with an Astro by his side. :)
I don't think Elroy will be disappointed.

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Title: Re: May Elroy Seek Your Recommendation
Post by: Uncle Buck on November 15, 2020, 09:55:04 PM
Probably too late to help. I faced the same issue recently and broke two pullers trying to do the job. The first a brand new never used Lisle set, the second an older OTC set that I also had. Well I contacted Lisle for a replacement part for my set and they were super to deal with.

They replaced the broken piece from my old set, then did me one better. Eddie Lisle himself sent me their new design puller which is absolutely bullet proof totally free! The new design set cost about $80 I think but is the best design of anything I could find. If you need a pulley puller installer set for a power steering pump it is the only way to go!

This is the set: https://www.lislecorp.com/specialty-tools/pullers-and-installers/no-slip-pulley-puller
Title: Re: May Elroy Seek Your Recommendation
Post by: fatfillup on November 16, 2020, 08:00:37 AM
Lisle set looks nice.  Pressure screw is the weak link judging from how many bad ones I have seen in used sets I have bought.

ALWAYS LUBE YOUR PULLERS BEFORE YOU USE THEM :91: :41:
Title: Re: May Elroy Seek Your Recommendation
Post by: Elroy on December 06, 2020, 01:49:33 PM
Elroy is pleased to report that ASTRO is Elroy's best friend and performed well during our recent pump exchange. That pulley was a lot harder to remove than to reinstall. Greasing both the thrust bearing and the screw thread prior helped ensure a smooth operation.
Title: Re: May Elroy Seek Your Recommendation
Post by: Elroy on December 06, 2020, 01:56:36 PM
Lisle set looks nice.  Pressure screw is the weak link judging from how many bad ones I have seen in used sets I have bought.

ALWAYS LUBE YOUR PULLERS BEFORE YOU USE THEM :91: :41:

Elroy can assure you that failure to use some high pressure lubricant on the screw can guarantee thread failure with just one use.  Elroy had to use a cheater to get enough torque. Use no grease and one would probably ruin the puller before getting the pulley reinstalled.
Title: Re: May Elroy Seek Your Recommendation
Post by: skfarmer on December 06, 2020, 05:02:17 PM
High pressure lube?

Does elroy recommend k-y or astroglide?

Although, either of those may be better suited for pusher rather than puller applications. :)
Title: Re: May Elroy Seek Your Recommendation
Post by: DeadNutz on December 06, 2020, 07:24:42 PM
Lisle set looks nice.  Pressure screw is the weak link judging from how many bad ones I have seen in used sets I have bought.

ALWAYS LUBE YOUR PULLERS BEFORE YOU USE THEM :91: :41:

Elroy can assure you that failure to use some high pressure lubricant on the screw can guarantee thread failure with just one use.  Elroy had to use a cheater to get enough torque. Use no grease and one would probably ruin the puller before getting the pulley reinstalled.

A puller I had to use on my Ranger said to lube it with anti-seize.
Title: Re: May Elroy Seek Your Recommendation
Post by: Elroy on December 06, 2020, 08:17:30 PM
A puller I had to use on my Ranger said to lube it with anti-seize.

Elroy recalls reading that recommendation and has full confidence that anti-seize would work well on the thread. Due to the "mess factor", Elroy elected to use an EP-0 grease on both the bearing and thread. While never-seize performs well on screws it is not well suited and is specifically NOT recommended for ball bearings. While EP-0 grease is not readily available, Elroy inventoried a quart from the 5 gallon pail at work. Stored in a sealed mason jar that quart has lasted several years, remains clean in it's sealed container and has NOT separated from the carrier. Cheap grease leaching oil during storage.  :a102:

The screw also had a black oxide coating that was pulling a bright spot about half way up that was causing the nut to drag on the initial trail assembly. Elroy addressed this minor manufacturing defect with a light pass across a wire wheel. Lubed both the screw and nut well then packed the thrust bearing full of EP-0 prior to engaging the work.

That pulley didn't come off easy. It made Elroy red in the face to get initial movement but once it started to move is was not too bad. A light coat of grease on the pulley hub made reassembly a lot easier.  :08:

The biggest PITA was getting the dam serpentine belt back on  :c002:

 
Title: Re: May Elroy Seek Your Recommendation
Post by: Elroy on January 24, 2021, 07:48:18 PM
Took a couple of pictures