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Offline Jamesyarbrough

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Re: Harbor freight ceo slams snap on
« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2019, 07:05:30 PM »
Blupoint is not blupoint. Its whatever import rebranded.  Look at their disconnect set. Exact same thing as lisle. Even the packaging.

Blue Point is the name that Snap on slaps on most re-brands, foreign or domestic. I have a lot of older Blue Point branded tools that are excellent US made tools. They are just not as polished or finished as a Snap on branded tool.
MAC puts their name on a huge amount of tools that they out source, have done so almost since day one.


Yeah thats what im saying. And then they triple the price. Its unethical and honesty i hope snap on, mac, matco, and cornwell go out of business.  Its not right the way the do hard working mechanics.

Heck i seen the mac guy here selling stanley ratchets for $50 when they were $20 at walmart. And the mechanics actually believed they were better tools than the ones at walmart and paid the price for them.  I know ithe blame is on both parties, but dang man it aint right. 


Sorry to get off on a rant.

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Re: Harbor freight ceo slams snap on
« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2019, 07:06:01 PM »
:)) found this on one of my sites

Oh shoot!  :D

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Re: Harbor freight ceo slams snap on
« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2019, 10:10:19 PM »
Used to be Blue Point was just as high quality as Snap-on. I do not think that is the case anymore, BP stuff is import anymore and years ago that was not the case.
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Re: Harbor freight ceo slams snap on
« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2019, 11:52:54 PM »
Blupoint is not blupoint. Its whatever import rebranded.  Look at their disconnect set. Exact same thing as lisle. Even the packaging.

Blue Point is the name that Snap on slaps on most re-brands, foreign or domestic. I have a lot of older Blue Point branded tools that are excellent US made tools. They are just not as polished or finished as a Snap on branded tool.
MAC puts their name on a huge amount of tools that they out source, have done so almost since day one.


Yeah thats what im saying. And then they triple the price. Its unethical and honesty i hope snap on, mac, matco, and cornwell go out of business.  Its not right the way the do hard working mechanics.

Heck i seen the mac guy here selling stanley ratchets for $50 when they were $20 at walmart. And the mechanics actually believed they were better tools than the ones at walmart and paid the price for them.  I know ithe blame is on both parties, but dang man it aint right. 

No sympathy from me if a mechanic isn't smart enough to realize that.

Besides, with the proliferation of Harbor Freight and other discounters, nobody is forced to be a slave to the tool trucks anymore.
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Re: Harbor freight ceo slams snap on
« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2019, 10:36:30 PM »
Besides, if there were no truck brands, what would Harbor Freight beat?

More importantly, all those HF fanboys would have nowhere to direct all that anger and jealousy at.

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Re: Harbor freight ceo slams snap on
« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2019, 05:55:44 AM »
Well we would still have sk, and wright tool for them to gripe about. :))


  And now there are gearwrench trucks too. I wish gearwrench was domestic, but i like the pricing compared to mac and matco taiwan tools.

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Re: Harbor freight ceo slams snap on
« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2019, 06:54:35 PM »
Lot of matco is gearwrench

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Re: Harbor freight ceo slams snap on
« Reply #22 on: September 07, 2019, 09:33:02 AM »
Lot of matco is gearwrench

Not so much currently. There was a time when the Armstrong factory that used to crank out MATCO tools along with other brands was shuttered, that MATCO used some Gearwrench made tools to fill the void but, now MATCO has distanced itself from Gearwrench and is using Kabo supplied tools along with US made tools such as their ratchets from AJ Manufacturing.

back to the original theme, Harbor Freight will release their ICON line of professional mechanics tools and tool storage towards the end of September. They are also looking at a Harbor Freight credit card which might be zero percent interest for 2-3 years. I saw the ICON tools at last year's SEMA show and they are definitely not your usual Harbor Freight fare. Time will tell if they'll be accepted or not but, i know that the second generation Harbor Freight tool carts and boxes are pretty popular in many shops in my area.

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Re: Harbor freight ceo slams snap on
« Reply #23 on: September 07, 2019, 09:55:07 AM »
Lot of matco is gearwrench

Not so much currently. There was a time when the Armstrong factory that used to crank out MATCO tools along with other brands was shuttered, that MATCO used some Gearwrench made tools to fill the void but, now MATCO has distanced itself from Gearwrench and is using Kabo supplied tools along with US made tools such as their ratchets from AJ Manufacturing.

back to the original theme, Harbor Freight will release their ICON line of professional mechanics tools and tool storage towards the end of September. They are also looking at a Harbor Freight credit card which might be zero percent interest for 2-3 years. I saw the ICON tools at last year's SEMA show and they are definitely not your usual Harbor Freight fare. Time will tell if they'll be accepted or not but, i know that the second generation Harbor Freight tool carts and boxes are pretty popular in many shops in my area.

I'm honestly interested in this new HF ICON line. With the demise of Sears and the outsourcing of Craftsman for years I've begun to look at HF differently. I'm looking at needing some new tools in the future (no collectibles), and would really like to find a decent tool line with a good warranty and convenient locations. With talk of a credit line it sounds like HF is the place to be.  :)

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Re: Harbor freight ceo slams snap on
« Reply #24 on: September 07, 2019, 01:05:24 PM »
Well we would still have sk, and wright tool for them to gripe about. :))


  And now there are gearwrench trucks too. I wish gearwrench was domestic, but i like the pricing compared to mac and matco taiwan tools.
Wright sells Cougar tools, where are they made?

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Re: Harbor freight ceo slams snap on
« Reply #25 on: September 07, 2019, 01:10:31 PM »
Well we would still have sk, and wright tool for them to gripe about. :))


  And now there are gearwrench trucks too. I wish gearwrench was domestic, but i like the pricing compared to mac and matco taiwan tools.
Wright sells Cougar tools, where are they made?

At one time, Cougar was outsourced to Danaher/Apex by Wright Walrus. I'm not sure what the situation is today.

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Re: Harbor freight ceo slams snap on
« Reply #26 on: September 07, 2019, 05:23:11 PM »
I think cougar is imported

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Re: Harbor freight ceo slams snap on
« Reply #27 on: September 08, 2019, 03:20:02 AM »
Quote from: goodfellow
At one time, Cougar was outsourced to Danaher/Apex by Wright Walrus. I'm not sure what the situation is today.

I think it's still Apex/Danaher...but Asian.

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Re: Harbor freight ceo slams snap on
« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2019, 08:31:03 AM »
Lot of matco is gearwrench

Not so much currently. There was a time when the Armstrong factory that used to crank out MATCO tools along with other brands was shuttered, that MATCO used some Gearwrench made tools to fill the void but, now MATCO has distanced itself from Gearwrench and is using Kabo supplied tools along with US made tools such as their ratchets from AJ Manufacturing.

back to the original theme, Harbor Freight will release their ICON line of professional mechanics tools and tool storage towards the end of September. They are also looking at a Harbor Freight credit card which might be zero percent interest for 2-3 years. I saw the ICON tools at last year's SEMA show and they are definitely not your usual Harbor Freight fare. Time will tell if they'll be accepted or not but, i know that the second generation Harbor Freight tool carts and boxes are pretty popular in many shops in my area.

Do you think the tools that are reported to be coming out of a new SBD facility in TX in a year or two will be competing against ICON?

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Re: Harbor freight ceo slams snap on
« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2019, 01:20:34 PM »
Idk. I hope the new icon line is affordable like the old school craftsman. But from what i seen with their packaging i doubt it will be.  You dont put a ratchet in a $20 box unless you are gonna charge for it.