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Re: Trade war with China: What do you think?
« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2019, 05:56:59 PM »
We will win with Trump as the leader. I read they are asking to come back for more talks . First sign of weakness, remember we are their biggest customer, lots of cheap folks living in the US of A

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Re: Trade war with China: What do you think?
« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2019, 06:24:12 PM »
As above, the lax trade policies make it hard to bust their nuts on the tariffs. But if they are tariffing our exports to them we should as an equal trading partner be doing the same. I know the fair is a place where we show livestock but I am glad the guy I voted for is doing the tariff thing no matter how much it hurts. I'm prepared to stop buying if need be. And with our current economic policies, procuring the money to build renovate or whatever factories to produce whatever shouldn't be hard to come up with.

China has their own economic problems. They have built cities and infrastructure that is not even being used. Bridges over a river that isn't even there yet. Commercial and industrial buildings that are empty and housing that has never been occupied. This is fact and it is financed with the retirement savings of their working class. They have a bubble of proportions that thy have never had to deal with so they have their own economic probs to worry about. And now with Hong Kong on the up rise the communist Chinese have a hand full of problems on the equal or even more of Tienanmen square debacle and with the internet these events are becoming harder to hide from the rest of the world.

The Europeans also have there own prob to worry about. The euro, brexit and the Greece failure are big problems and more on the horizon. Germany has been strengthening their military but we would too if we bordered on what they do.

Russia keeps their affairs on the down low. Though they and the Chinese seem to be stock piling gold. This could be a problem if they launch a crypto currency back in gold. This would get our govt on the stick with their own crypto and the launch of the libre on fb could throw a wrench into many other currencies.

It is a brave new world out there. I try to let my children know but they aren't listening and i fear that too. The millennial population will surpass the number of baby boomers this year or next, so the 80 million of them can sway an election or two . I fear they weren't taught the perils of socialism and communism and seem to be followers instead of at least thinking things through.

sorry to ramble. I kinda got off track but it is a world economy and I think if they tariff us, we NEED to tariff them just as hard or at least negotiate on why they think it is a free ride over here but not the other way around. Free market works both ways.
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Re: Trade war with China: What do you think?
« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2019, 06:32:54 PM »
Amen.
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Re: Trade war with China: What do you think?
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2019, 06:51:04 PM »
The squeeze on the Chinese is coming from two sides. Remember, the Trump administration has also put tariffs on the Europeans. For years, the Europeans were able to import cheap Chinese components to build into their finished products (automobiles, industrial electronics and control systems, etc.) Now that the tariffs are in place, they don't sell as much of that equipment in the US anymore; hence the Chinese are also taking a financial beating from the Euro- supply chains.

In my personal opinion, Pres. Trump "hired" the smartest and most "cut throat" investor on Wall Street to implement his China vision; Wilbur Ross! Mr. Ross comes across as mild mannered, calm, collected, and benign; when in actuality he is truly a corporate "killer" of the first order. I'm very glad he's on our side and is a patriot.

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Re: Trade war with China: What do you think?
« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2019, 07:13:46 PM »
From the latest analysis that I've read the Chinese are playing run out the clock, hoping Trump is either impeached or voted out. Then they'll have a nice cozy Dem to deal with. So they're playing nice and keeping the dialogue going but they really have no intention of changing anything.
I'd say it's way past time to start stocking - as they used to say - beans, bacon, and ammo. ;D

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Re: Trade war with China: What do you think?
« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2019, 08:05:10 AM »
Everyone one wants to bash the millennial's but I think its a different problem, Its a rural v urban problem. I am a millennial and all of my millennial friends are very conservative but we are all also rural residents and raised in the country. With more and more people living and raising kids in urban and suburban areas you create more and more city voters. Look at any county by county voting results map and you will see a spread of red county's with some blue dots where the city's are. 

Trump didnt win the way he won by not getting young voters, he won by talking to everyone out side of city's and metro areas.