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TOOLS AND THE SHOP => GENERAL TOOL AND MACHINE DISCUSSION => Topic started by: muddy on April 17, 2021, 08:01:29 PM

Title: Didn't think they were worth it....
Post by: muddy on April 17, 2021, 08:01:29 PM
Been keeping an eye out for a set of USA made wrench for the tool cart at home. I chased them up to $65. I can't believe they went this high. Are they that sought after now and I'm just cheap/out of touch?




https://www.ebay.com/itm/Craftsman-USA-19pc-Metric-Combination-Wrench-Set-6mm-to-24mm-VA-Matco-rack-/224419869402?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286

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Title: Re: Didn't think they were worth it....
Post by: DeadNutz on April 17, 2021, 08:07:36 PM
The fact they are 18 metric wrenches is what drove the price up. The SAE's are going for good money but not as much.
Title: Re: Didn't think they were worth it....
Post by: goodfellow on April 17, 2021, 08:18:22 PM
Yup - that's what they're going for; it's crazy. Saw a set of Craftsman Industrial polished metric wrenches go higher than that a few weeks ago. USA Craftsman hand tools are fetching some incredible prices these days. That said, I'm quite certain that they will continue to go up in price over the next year.

What's even more astonishing is that the old Cross Force sets are going for higher money, even though they were considered a market failure at the time.

Title: Re: Didn't think they were worth it....
Post by: bonneyman on April 17, 2021, 08:28:40 PM
If I only had known! I could have bought tons of Craftsman tools and done better than my 401K!  :))

I, too, have been looking for a decent spare set of American chrome combo wrenches in metric. My Thorsen set is a bit patchy but only lacking the 16mm. Might just put a Bonney 16 in that spot and call it a day.
Title: Re: Didn't think they were worth it....
Post by: slip knot on April 17, 2021, 08:58:36 PM
May be time to start selling some of the whored. :c029:
Title: Re: Didn't think they were worth it....
Post by: fatfillup on April 18, 2021, 04:41:01 AM
At $65 you were being too cheap but you should gave stopped at $100 or so with the same result :41:
Title: Re: Didn't think they were worth it....
Post by: oldnslo on April 18, 2021, 07:19:46 AM
Yep, chasing those down back in the day at clearance price, and then flipping them much higher was quite fun. I'm not a fan of the polished wrench finish and prefer much more a satin finish, tho that didnt prevent me from keeping an SAE and metric extended set for my descendants.

Title: Re: Didn't think they were worth it....
Post by: coolmercury on April 18, 2021, 07:52:53 AM
It is crazy, at a farm auction yesterday a Craftsman metric set of combination wrenches went for $180.00 and there were only 14 wrenches.  At the same time I bought a Craftsman "U" 3/8" drive socket set complete in the original box for $20.00.
Title: Re: Didn't think they were worth it....
Post by: john k on April 18, 2021, 08:16:35 AM
Was always impressed by the full matching sets, polished, shiny, just could never justify it for myself.  One advantage of having wildly mismatched wrenches is quick identification.  The 17mm is Bluepoint, one up is the 18mm Mac, no looking at sizes.   Standard set of 11 wrenches 3/8 - 1 inch is made up of 8 different brands, yes, my main set in the Snapon  box I used at work.  Craftsman, Proto, Mac, Snappy, Bonney, Vlchek, even a Fleet, New Britain, 2 Plombs,  at least 3 of the old J.A Pan corp tools.
 Bought some new, , many were used, pawn shops, garage sales, guess the old sign at the salvage yard held true, why buy new when used will do.  It is a used world, not getting any newer, my house is pre-owned, built in 1906, most of the cars have been used, did get a new pickup back in1986, if it works,,,,,use it. So if you can foot the bill, get the shiny stuff.   End of rant, my privilege, 70th. BD today.
Title: Re: Didn't think they were worth it....
Post by: slip knot on April 18, 2021, 10:08:48 AM
Happy BDay John. :dance:
Title: Re: Didn't think they were worth it....
Post by: DeadNutz on April 18, 2021, 10:20:07 AM
Happy Birthday John.  :happybirthday3:
Title: Re: Didn't think they were worth it....
Post by: goodfellow on April 18, 2021, 04:41:41 PM
Happy Birthday John!!!


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Title: Re: Didn't think they were worth it....
Post by: Lookin4_67GalaxieConv on April 18, 2021, 07:29:55 PM
Hope you had a good 70th, John!   :682:
Title: Re: Didn't think they were worth it....
Post by: bonneyman on April 18, 2021, 07:33:10 PM
Yeah, turning 70 entitles you to some griping.

Just don't gripe about me! :D
Title: Re: Didn't think they were worth it....
Post by: hickory n Steel on April 18, 2021, 11:23:36 PM
 I went looking a couple years ago and the prices were through the roof, I ended up with a couple sets of Proamerica GOVT surplus,  and 2 small sets of USA Napa in metric and SAE.
Those have decent steel but poor chrome ( very late Danahar I believe) .
They're serviceable though and I definitely use them.

Now it seems the Craftsman wrenches are much more reasonable compared to what they were, but for some reason the Socket sets always seem pretty affordable and certainly much less than the wrench sets.

Btw there have been some nice Thorsen sets on Ebay for reasonable prices lately.

I almost bought a set of those nice ones you can also find branded for Dayton, the ones with the diamond like handle recesses.
Title: Re: Didn't think they were worth it....
Post by: highland512 on April 19, 2021, 07:47:20 AM
I paid less for a set of snap-on wrenches from 3/8-1" good grief. Maybe I need to dig around and see what I find, I think I have a hang tag that still has it's 1/2 ratchet.
Title: Re: Didn't think they were worth it....
Post by: muddy on April 21, 2021, 08:53:45 PM
At $65 you were being too cheap but you should gave stopped at $100 or so with the same result :41:
Cheap and terrible at making decisions....but you knew this already :))

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Title: Re: Didn't think they were worth it....
Post by: skfarmer on April 22, 2021, 06:27:21 AM
I know where there is a set of black proto anti slip wrenches. About 10-24. Could probably snag for about 125.
Title: Re: Didn't think they were worth it....
Post by: muddy on April 26, 2021, 07:54:29 PM
I know where there is a set of black proto anti slip wrenches. About 10-24. Could probably snag for about 125.
I bet they are nice, but that's a bit more then I'm looking to spend for home use right now. My tool cart does lock and I have two sets of little hands that like to walk off with things while I'm not looking lol

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Title: Re: Didn't think they were worth it....
Post by: fatfillup on April 28, 2021, 03:24:37 AM
I know where there is a set of black proto anti slip wrenches. About 10-24. Could probably snag for about 125.
I bet they are nice, but that's a bit more then I'm looking to spend for home use right now. My tool cart does lock and I have two sets of little hands that like to walk off with things while I'm not looking lol

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Holy crap, the Mudman is raising a pair of little theives :))
Title: Re: Didn't think they were worth it....
Post by: DeadNutz on April 28, 2021, 09:00:50 AM
I know where there is a set of black proto anti slip wrenches. About 10-24. Could probably snag for about 125.
I bet they are nice, but that's a bit more then I'm looking to spend for home use right now. My tool cart does lock and I have two sets of little hands that like to walk off with things while I'm not looking lol

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Holy crap, the Mudman is raising a pair of little theives :))

I'm sure they are just devoloping a taste for fine tools and Tim will have to bring them to your shop before long. :great:
Title: Re: Didn't think they were worth it....
Post by: fatfillup on April 28, 2021, 11:11:18 AM
I know where there is a set of black proto anti slip wrenches. About 10-24. Could probably snag for about 125.
I bet they are nice, but that's a bit more then I'm looking to spend for home use right now. My tool cart does lock and I have two sets of little hands that like to walk off with things while I'm not looking lol

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Holy crap, the Mudman is raising a pair of little theives :))

I'm sure they are just devoloping a taste for fine tools and Tim will have to bring them to your shop before long. :great:

Sam has already been here and wasn't impressed but he was pretty young at the time.  You can bet I'll be patting them down after their next visit :))
Title: Re: Didn't think they were worth it....
Post by: bonneyman on April 28, 2021, 02:58:14 PM
I know where there is a set of black proto anti slip wrenches. About 10-24. Could probably snag for about 125.

I'm hoping Epsteins comes through with some Bonney's in their next couple of pallet loads. If not, maybe Protos are in my future?  O:-)
Title: Re: Didn't think they were worth it....
Post by: muddy on April 28, 2021, 08:27:08 PM
:))   the little one definitely is but she usually just hands it over to someone else I think she's more comfortable being a middle man

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Title: Re: Didn't think they were worth it....
Post by: highland512 on April 30, 2021, 08:49:02 PM
:))   the little one definitely is but she usually just hands it over to someone else I think she's more comfortable being a middle man

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I found having a “kids only” tool box with some crap I don’t use sitting on the floor distracts the little monkeys from getting in my box.
Title: Re: Didn't think they were worth it....
Post by: DeadNutz on May 01, 2021, 08:56:19 AM
:))   the little one definitely is but she usually just hands it over to someone else I think she's more comfortable being a middle man

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I found having a “kids only” tool box with some crap I don’t use sitting on the floor distracts the little monkeys from getting in my box.

That sounds like a great way to deal with the junk import tools that you end up with when buying used tool boxes.
Title: Re: Didn't think they were worth it....
Post by: bonneyman on May 01, 2021, 10:33:34 AM
I think the day is coming when we're gonna be so hard up for raw materials all the old discarded sockets and wrenches will be confiscated for their chrome and other metals.
Title: Re: Didn't think they were worth it....
Post by: muddy on May 02, 2021, 09:02:56 PM
:))   the little one definitely is but she usually just hands it over to someone else I think she's more comfortable being a middle man

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I found having a “kids only” tool box with some crap I don’t use sitting on the floor distracts the little monkeys from getting in my box.
Yep Sam has a basket of his own tools. But every now and then he likes to "borrow" mine lol

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