Yeah, American Loggers and Swamp Loggers were both great shows, along with one that showcased helo logging in Canada - can't remember the name of that one. On the other hand, Axe Men was an absolute load of !%@##!#@@&*! after the first season or so - all fake drama and blatant OSHA/safety violations to bump ratings... I'da been humiliated to be associated with any operation on that show!