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Offline bonneyman

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Re: Post virus world changes
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2020, 06:55:47 PM »
Gas is down around $2.30 per gallon but who knows how long/deep the oil wars will go. Anyway I'm getting a solid 16+mpg in town with the Astro van so I'm thrilled.

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Re: Post virus world changes
« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2020, 07:02:15 PM »
I think people are realizing that a lot of "regulated" things don't matter. That much of that is BS, kinda like the TSA and bottle sizes, stuff like that. Trucking regs and such. Also, what is truly important and what is just fluff. Like family.

I also see a lot of mom and pop things going under, and people taking those things over as a hobby. Already started seeing it before, but now people don't care what the tax man thinks.

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Re: Post virus world changes
« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2020, 09:54:18 PM »
Greedy WA it`s just about $3.00 bloody greedy gov
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Re: Post virus world changes
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2020, 12:24:29 AM »
I can't give the response I want to give without getting political, but I'll just say I can see certain people wanting to take advantage of all this very easily.
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Re: Post virus world changes
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2020, 08:11:01 AM »
Nothing will change, a year from now people will go back to not keeping anything in their house and the next time something happens they will rush out an buy some other crazy product like TP was this time. I hope people will realize that China is the devil we (on this and former tool boards) have known about. Maybe they will wake up to the fact that we are totaly dependent on the commies and demand USA made again....but I doubt it. One thing I think has changed is the 2A crowd. The amount of first time gun buyers in the past week is amazing, as long as they dont accidentally shoot them self with their new purchase, maybe we will have some more people to fight against the gun grabbers.  :08:

This is going to hit the local restaurants the hardest, I know I ordered takeout for my house the other night just to support a local family owned eatery with some great food and service. The owner and his family where the only ones working, he said things where very tight $$ wise but they where holding on. If you enjoy a local independent eatery in your area, go support them. 

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Re: Post virus world changes
« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2020, 07:07:41 PM »
I can't give the response I want to give without getting political, but I'll just say I can see certain people wanting to take advantage of all this very easily.

Do it I`m really wanting to hear what's on everybody's minds.
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Re: Post virus world changes
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2020, 09:01:46 PM »
I do suspect one thing. Cross-border travel will be very restricted for the foreseeable future. Many countries will most likely institute vaccination and health check requirements to travel through, or within their borders. Back in the day it was a common practice to require such documentation, but globalism and open cross border trade/cooperation forced politicians to rescind those legal statutes.

Up until a few years ago we thought we had eradicated polio and tuberculosis in this country, yet with massive immigration (legal and illegal), those diseases are making a comeback. This Chinese COVID-19 virus may force the US to reinstate those earlier controls. The Europeans are already closing borders, and who knows if they will ever open up in the same manner as before.

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Re: Post virus world changes
« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2020, 09:19:31 PM »
Yep I agree Europe heck every country will be re thinking their border policies.
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Re: Post virus world changes
« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2020, 09:31:46 PM »
Yep I agree Europe heck every country will be re thinking their border policies.

As they should. A porous border is an open invitation to disaster.

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Re: Post virus world changes
« Reply #24 on: March 23, 2020, 11:37:07 PM »
I can't give the response I want to give without getting political, but I'll just say I can see certain people wanting to take advantage of all this very easily.

Do it I`m really wanting to hear what's on everybody's minds.

If this gets moved to Politics or somebody starts a thread over there about it.   ;)
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Re: Post virus world changes
« Reply #25 on: April 04, 2020, 01:13:21 AM »
Okay, now that this in Politics I will let loose.  This whole thing has scared the shit out of me.  Not because of the virus itself, but because of how docile we become in times like these.  It seems we blindly follow whatever our "leaders" tell us, the same leaders we were deriding the day before.  Individual rights are always the first to go, we're told, because we have to do everything collectively.  Always keep that in mind.  Re: the virus, this doesn't sound like anything that came up organically, but more like it was concocted in a laboratory and given to people to infect others without anyone knowing.  Seems to me that it's a biological weapon.  The latest I've heard is that a vaccine is being developed by the Gates Foundation.  Hmmm...no thanks.  I'm not an anti-vaxxer but I have no interest in being vaccinated by Bill "New World Order" Gates. 

Now I'm not saying we should defy the social distancing rules for the time being.  But if this drags into May and June, look out.  We've already legislated a massive spending bill, and politicians of all stripes are ready to spend more of your great grandchildren's money.  California governor Gavin Newsome has already been quoted about using this virus as a means to further the progressive agenda.  James Clyburn of South Carolina has commented that the huge "stimulus" bill would be a good way to push progressive bullshit.

Now look how daily life has changed.  A lot fewer people are on the roads, nobody is eating in restaurants, and curfews are in place.  What the hell does a curfew have to do with social distancing?  Hey, if they can decrease the number of miles driven by 2/3, how long do you think it will be until we're told we need permission to drive anywhere because of climate change, or whatever other bullshit agenda they're pushing?

Doesn't it feel to some of you like this is a trial run?  Unleash a virus, place all these restrictions in place that no one can argue with, and observe what happens.  The stock market has lost a third of its value in just over a month and we've added massive debt to our deficit.  I don't know exactly who or what is behind this but I have my theories.  You guys may think I'm a conspiracy theorist, and that's okay, I hope I'm wrong.  All I can leave you with is question everything that's going on right now and who may have what to gain from it.  Don't focus all your attention on news about the virus, focus your attention on what's taking place that they're justifying BECAUSE of the virus.

I should add that I've read people who had underlying medical conditions and Coronavirus symptoms then died are being counted as Coronavirus deaths.
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Re: Post virus world changes
« Reply #26 on: April 04, 2020, 05:26:26 AM »
I won’t argue against your thinking, but I will just add these.

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Re: Post virus world changes
« Reply #27 on: April 04, 2020, 09:57:34 AM »
Consensus is growing that China released the virus (accidentally or not) from that bio-lab in Wuhan. Wouldn't be a surprised if they intentionally spread it around the world to bring economies to standstill. Pre-Virus their economy was at a standstill, Hong Kong was rebelling, and internal and external political pressures were mounting with regard to civil rights for minorities in China and China's spying technology built into microchips. Their banks were failing due to failed construction loans, and off-book (shadow) banking practices. They were quickly going down the drain.

Fast forward to today and no one is talking about those issues anymore -- China is off the hook, and their manufacturing sector is ready to go. Oil is cheap and their factories can produce using cheap energy to outperform the rest of the world.

Conspiracy? maybe, but I see these issues being raised in recent days from an increasing number of online sources. We may never know, but trust in the Chinese system and their political leadership has been eroded to a very large degree.
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Re: Post virus world changes
« Reply #28 on: April 04, 2020, 11:15:18 AM »
There's too many inconsistencies involved in this debacle. I'm highly suspicious of anything the "experts" say.

No one will be able to prove it, but I think the Chinese created this bug specifically as a weapon. Airborne transmission, highly infections, targets only people, a virus that can live on some surfaces for DAYS (last time I read about viruses they needed living tissue to survive and transmit), people can spread it for weeks without showing symptoms, etc. The chance of it developing naturally is very small. They took the proteins from several different strains specifically for their effects and hooked them all together to make this thing. "It came from eating exotic meats" - then why did the Chinese just reopen the wet markets? It was a weapon - perhaps a test run financial weapon - to see how bad they could affect the U.S. (Notice their buddies the Russians are not really experiencing the spread like most other developed countries, and are even sending masks and medical equipment to the U.S.)  Capitalism sucks, communism is really the best way - SEE? And just look at the effects. 10 million unemployed, thousands of businesses closed that won't reopen, people hoarding TP, idiot kids going on spring break then going home and spreading the disease (and google tracked their cell phones and know where they went. That in itself is frightening!). If the states were so worried about spring breakers then why didn't they close the beaches??? No, they close them AFTER spring break is over, then blame the kids. It's both! They didn't want to lose the income from the week of students coming in but then had to close the beaches (to locals) as a "show" of concern.
The Chinese are overextended financially, they can't keep the lies going, the trade war with the U.S. is hurting them. Before the commies loose control they pulled out their doomsday project. Let it lose domestically, they don't care if it kills their own people. If 500,000 or a million (or 20 million) die, it's only a drop in the bucket compared to their total 1.7 billion people. Plus it gives them cover, as nobody will believe a country would kill millions of their own civilians. (Though Stalin did it after WW2). So they had nothing left to lose. Trump is not going to give in, and even they can see he's gonna win re-election. They can't wait 5 years till political leadership changes, so they let the thing loose. And look at what it has done. Even military ships - like the carriers in the South China Sea arena - are infected and becoming less militarily effective. With all the attention back home about the collapsing economy and all, China can make their move and we'll be limited in our effective response.
Plus the propaganda campaign that followed and continues to be played out. Blame your enemies for doing exactly what you yourself are doing. The Dems do it all the time, and notice how many liberals are DEFENDING China and (again) nuking Trump. He didn't lockdown the borders (because he doesn't care), then when he does, he's racist! The several politicians who cashed in stocks a week before the virus caused the market crash, but there's no connection at all!
The ever increasing stay at home orders. Now there's talk of "it might take till July or August, perhaps longer". Britain is already circulating the news that they may be closed down for a year. Maybe in other countries, but here in America? Just the thought of National Guard troops being readied and deployed to "help stock groceries" is chilling. Plus they're shipping tanks into Tucson on trains. Why the heck do they need tanks - to deliver groceries? It's like their pre-positioning forces under the guise of "assistance" then they'll be activated into "security" overnight while we sleep. We allow it now because it seems helpful, but can turn deadly in an instant. I'm sorry but having U.S. armed soldiers on the streets threatening average Americans just ain't gonna fly. People are buying guns in droves, businesses are boarding up their shops fearing riots. People aren't as blind as the powerful think they are. But after months of no jobs, evictions, businesses collapsing, government assistance the only way to get by - what else do we think is gonna result?
Don't hoard masks as they don't prevent you from getting the disease. Now they're trying to make everybody wear them! What? Did all the doctors and nurses finally get all the masks they need? What about the shortages? Oh, so we can forgo keeping our distance in public? Nope, the masks don't guarantee your safety. Then why wear them???
I'm not heartless for those who have died, but destroying the country to "save" it is ridiculous. And all the Dems can think about is reparations, climate change, mail-in voting, and keeping abortion clinics open. Obvious political theater.
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Re: Post virus world changes
« Reply #29 on: April 04, 2020, 11:23:38 AM »
My sister who has a PhD in nursing and worked critical and emergency care her whole career believes this was an engineered virus. I think was going to be a global pandemic whether planned for this time or not. The UN just appointed a Chinese official to a key post on the Human Rights Council and he will play a role in selection of investigators to check on abuses. A UN watchdog said it best when he compared it to a town hiring a pyromaniac as fire chief.

There is just too much about this whole situation that stinks and Lookin4 made some very good points and observations.