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Title: Model Train layout
Post by: muddy on January 30, 2020, 09:00:55 PM
Last weekend I built the table for my 3' x 6' N scale model Train layout I'm going to be putting together.

Made out of 2 x 4s it's a bit overkill, but that's how I build things lol

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Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: pep on January 30, 2020, 09:49:45 PM
muddy,

 You want, need models rolling stock, all well detailed, weathered, first class stuff. Selling off my layout

Here is a quick example of what is up for grabs.

No worry I can work with you, get you and your son started . What is the theme, freight, passenger, city, country side, industrial?

cheers,


Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: muddy on January 30, 2020, 11:01:48 PM
Pep

My plan is a freight (mostly lumber, coal, grain, livestock, etc) small town. So mostly cattle cars hopper bottoms flat beds etc.

I'm including a grist mill, a farm house,  hardware store and a "main street" with several businesses.

What scale is your layout looks more like HO?

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Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: pep on January 31, 2020, 08:53:33 AM
You are seeing N scale, the layout was published in a magazine.

How about this 35$ + shipping everything seen, does not come with the ground cover LOL

If you like email:
 greg.pepitone@comcast.net

Will send pictures, I have , have just about everything mentioned, except cattle cars.


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Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: Heiny57 on January 31, 2020, 01:59:17 PM
Oh heck yeah, I will be following this. I never had but always wanted.  :cool2:
Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: ron350 on January 31, 2020, 02:41:04 PM
Pep that looks so real very impressive.
Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: muddy on January 31, 2020, 03:44:16 PM
Wow it's shame to tear all that out.....but I'll take it!

Email sent!

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Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: jabberwoki on January 31, 2020, 05:00:29 PM
Nice Grab Mudds ... on ya Pep.
Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: muddy on February 13, 2020, 09:34:23 PM
Layed the plywood and foam base. 3/8" plywood with 2" foam glued on top. 2" will give me good depth for some streams and valleys. (The stuff on top was to help the glue set....and it was an empty flat surface lol)


Going to mock up some track this weekend.


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Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: muddy on February 23, 2020, 09:29:25 PM
Mocked up track tonight. May have to rethink my layout as it's a bit tighter then was initially thinking. Right now it's the basic n-6 from the Atlas plan book.

Need to pick up a few more switches to fill in the inside and add a few custom lines yet.



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Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: pep on February 24, 2020, 06:57:03 AM
 Good choice that is the same track plan I used for a layout. 2 track main line is perfect, it also started on a 4 x 8. After some fun, opened one end of the loop. Added another sheet, became and L, some curves doubled the main line. That is going to be fun, you will be very glad having 2 main lines.

pep

Mocked up track tonight. May have to rethink my layout as it's a bit tighter then was initially thinking. Right now it's the basic n-6 from the Atlas plan book.

Need to pick up a few more switches to fill in the inside and add a few custom lines yet.



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Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: DeadNutz on February 24, 2020, 08:32:06 AM
That plan will work as long as you run shorter cars and trains. What era are you planning and running diesel or steam?
Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: muddy on February 24, 2020, 09:07:28 AM
That plan will work as long as you run shorter cars and trains. What era are you planning and running diesel or steam?
Yes lol. I'm running transition period. One steam loco and a diesel switcher....for now

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Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: goodfellow on February 24, 2020, 09:37:32 AM
I was never a wood worker, nor do i have any skills in that craft, but one of my lifelong dreams was to make an N scale coffee table layout with a glass top and two line operation. I saw such a layout at a train show in Germany once and fell in love with the idea. When we get resettled into a new home i will try my hand at it. I already have two N scale train packs in storage. I bought two complete KATO trains sets many years ago for for $10ea when KB Toys went out of business.

So the dream of that coffee table has been a long time coming. The train sets are in their original shrink wrapped packages, but are decades old.
Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: DeadNutz on February 24, 2020, 10:11:42 AM
I was never a wood worker, nor do i have any skills in that craft, but one of my lifelong dreams was to make an N scale coffee table layout with a glass top and two line operation. I saw such a layout at a train show in Germany once and fell in love with the idea. When we get resettled into a new home i will try my hand at it. I already have two N scale train packs in storage. I bought two complete KATO trains sets many years ago for for $10ea when KB Toys went out of business.

So the dream of that coffee table has been a long time coming. The train sets are in their original shrink wrapped packages, but are decades old.

That was quite a score on the Kato sets as those aren't cheap. I had a 4x8' layout in N scale and used HO under the Christmas tree but no layout now. Still have all the train stuff packed in boxes.
Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: pep on February 24, 2020, 01:11:49 PM
Kato was like the early Bachmen, but as of 15 years ago the did come of age. And now the with the DCC control. Track voltage is a constant 12vdc, no need for block isolation. Each engine has its own throttle module.

It makes running 2 locomotives in tandem extremely easy. They have ip addresses as access, sync the speeds.

Down side of a coffee table layouts, if like me the shin or toe finds the leg or table edge........ derailments are common ,  :c002: kind of like that jeep thing...

pep
Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: muddy on February 24, 2020, 02:16:43 PM
I was never a wood worker, nor do i have any skills in that craft, but one of my lifelong dreams was to make an N scale coffee table layout with a glass top and two line operation. I saw such a layout at a train show in Germany once and fell in love with the idea. When we get resettled into a new home i will try my hand at it. I already have two N scale train packs in storage. I bought two complete KATO trains sets many years ago for for $10ea when KB Toys went out of business.

So the dream of that coffee table has been a long time coming. The train sets are in their original shrink wrapped packages, but are decades old.
How about an N scale in a bar.....





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Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: goodfellow on February 24, 2020, 03:02:04 PM
I like that a lot -- great imagination at work with that design.
Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: muddy on February 24, 2020, 09:19:08 PM
I like that a lot -- great imagination at work with that design.
My dream is to one day have a basement bar....it will include one of these....if it ever happens.

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Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: Uncle Buck on February 24, 2020, 10:13:11 PM
My oldest daughter recently moved out of the basement. Once we get the mess down there cleaned up I have hopes of setting up a fairly large Lionel O gauge and American Flyer S gauge layouts. I have been laying back a bunch of Lionel, Marx, Plastiville, and American Flyer accessories. Of course, many of those accessories are not to scale, nor as lifelike as what real good modelers would use, plus the three rail issue of O gauge,  but they will please me just fine. I have no illusions of trying to make a layout as cool as real dedicated model railroaders like pep would do.

I just like the old Lionel, Marx and American Flyer stuff that I had as a kid and want to put something fun together I can leave on a dedicated layout. 
Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: muddy on March 25, 2020, 10:23:34 PM
I decided I'm going to go with DCC instead DC. The big difference between the two is how the power gets to the track/locomotive.

With DC your transformer controls the power going to the track and adjusts it via a variable switch you control witch the motor inside the loco responds to according speeding up or slowing down.

DCC is a little more complicated. With a DCC system. The track stays at one voltage and the loco is controlled by a "throttle" and adjusts the voltage going to the loco with onboard computer chips.

DCC also allows your loco to have sounds! Gotta have the bell and whistle or horn right?!

There's also more to it, and it can get confusing. I'm not sure I really understand it yet. But here is a helpful article if your interested...




https://www.google.com/amp/s/modelrailwayengineer.com/model-railway-analog-or-digital-dc-or-dcc/amp/






Anyway I bought a starter set by one of the biggest names in DCC and this set has tons of positive reviews and super easy to wire up so it should be good for a beginner like me.


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Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: muddy on March 25, 2020, 10:32:53 PM
Well I'm trying my hand at painting this water tower. I mixed blue and orange to get "brown".


However I think I'm going to have to go to the store and get the real brown that i want as this is more olive drab :))

Bob Ross I am not!!!!




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Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: pep on March 25, 2020, 10:36:14 PM
Smart move, Tim

Money well spent, no need for block control, also can adjust or sync the speed of locos, to run double headers.

 :PDT_Armataz_01_37:

Now you're talking,

Pep
Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: muddy on March 28, 2020, 09:22:05 PM
Laid track today. The two team tracks inside the circle are still up for debate and may change.

Since the Rona virus has my hobby shop closed, got to wait for roadbed and glue.


I'll work on some buildings while I wait.



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Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: Conductor562 on March 28, 2020, 11:35:41 PM
Donít be running any Crude Oil trains. Mud slide got us just outside of Elkhorn City, KY a couple months back. I canít image this going down in your basement  :)

Wasnít me, but was on my territory.
Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: slip knot on March 29, 2020, 09:18:53 AM
Try a small air brush to paint with much better results on the little detail stuff
Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: goodfellow on March 29, 2020, 09:48:10 AM
Try a small air brush to paint with much better results on the little detail stuff

That will work well, and it's fairly cheap these days. That said, back in the day my dad used to use dry colored chalk dust on a brush to weather cars and buildings, and then "fix" the dust with flat clear paint. He did some amazing work with that method.

He made the chalk dust by rubbing chalk over 220 grit sandpaper --
Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: Heiny57 on March 31, 2020, 05:17:10 AM
How many people were hurt in that wreck Travis? That looks bad.
Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: Conductor562 on March 31, 2020, 12:16:16 PM
How many people were hurt in that wreck Travis? That looks bad.

Believe it or not, the Engineer walked away without a scratch and the Conductor was banged up a little, but nothing serious.
Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: goodfellow on March 31, 2020, 12:20:41 PM
How many people were hurt in that wreck Travis? That looks bad.

Believe it or not, the Engineer walked away without a scratch and the Conductor was banged up a little, but nothing serious.

Quite extraordinary - considering the carnage shown in the picture.
Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: muddy on March 31, 2020, 01:07:36 PM
Amazing how just a simple mudslide can be so dangerous

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Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: muddy on May 19, 2020, 09:14:08 PM
Since the weather has been nice and the Rona has us on house arrest I've been busy with yard work.

I painted my mill. Time for assembly next


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Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: DeadNutz on May 19, 2020, 09:16:00 PM
Nice work on that Tim. :great:
Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: muddy on June 24, 2020, 09:43:50 PM
The walls went up on the mill tonight...

This little tray is darn handy. Has magnets that come with and you can set up the piece your working in for glueing. Basically a jig in sorts.

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Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: muddy on June 24, 2020, 09:46:44 PM
Thanks to Pepi my little town is growing.


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Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: goodfellow on June 25, 2020, 07:40:58 AM
Nice work Tim --  Sam will love it.
Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: J.A.F.E. on June 25, 2020, 08:45:25 AM
The tray is pretty cool. Do you recall what brand or the source?

The setup is quite impressive.
Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: muddy on June 25, 2020, 11:16:53 AM
The tray is pretty cool. Do you recall what brand or the source?

The setup is quite impressive.
It's a micromark.


https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XCQPV3T/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_D3m9Eb0EH5948

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Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: DeadNutz on June 25, 2020, 02:11:12 PM
Micromark tools aren't cheap but they make life much easier especially building a layout.
Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: J.A.F.E. on June 25, 2020, 03:06:50 PM
Thank you just what I needed!
Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: Uncle Buck on June 25, 2020, 08:59:22 PM
I love seeing your progress mudman!
Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: J.A.F.E. on June 28, 2020, 12:40:47 PM
Got it today and I'm quite pleased so far although I haven't used it yet. Thanks for the tip!
Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: DeadNutz on June 28, 2020, 03:42:23 PM
The alien didn't waste any time snagging one of those. :great:
Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: muddy on June 29, 2020, 08:27:32 PM
Got it today and I'm quite pleased so far although I haven't used it yet. Thanks for the tip!
I ordered it third party and it two weeks to get here. Should have bought through Amazon and payed a little more d'oh

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Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: ScoutDriver on June 29, 2020, 08:55:51 PM
Fun thread, muddy!  I'm watching this one.

Scott
Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: J.A.F.E. on June 30, 2020, 12:16:27 AM
I only ordered it from Amazon because that was the link I saw. I was quite surprised it got here so fast.
Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: muddy on July 03, 2020, 10:10:40 PM
Roofers worked all day to get done. Now they can have tomorrow off.


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Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: muddy on October 21, 2022, 09:58:19 PM
Holy smokes, really two years since I've touched this project??!! This winter I'm getting back to it.

Put the windows in the mill tonight. Need to start thinking of a name for the mill....

I'm thinking 30s-40s era so probably a Co-op of some sort....

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Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: jabberwoki on October 22, 2022, 09:15:14 AM
Muddworthington's flour mill.
Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: goodfellow on October 22, 2022, 12:55:57 PM
Lookin' good Tim. I'm sure Sam is at the age where this hobby is very appealing and fun -- especially when dad can join in as well.
Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: muddy on October 24, 2022, 09:38:11 PM
"Hung" the doors tonight. Some reason the kit only came with 4. So it's not the top one open. Actually a common sight in real mills for some reason


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Title: Re: Model Train layout
Post by: muddy on October 24, 2022, 09:38:49 PM
Lookin' good Tim. I'm sure Sam is at the age where this hobby is very appealing and fun -- especially when dad can join in as well.
He's definitely into watching them run. I think I'm going to see if he's interested in helping with the grain elevator.

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