.....GF do you have both metric and standard?
Husky 1/4 set. What attracted me to this was the New Briton made ratchet.I really like these ratchets and believe they are very high quality pieces.
Complete with coveted RHFT ratchet.
Complete with coveted RHFT ratchet.
Man you guys have some real awesome sets.
How do you guys feel about a homegrown set with a homemade case ?
Because that's currently what I've got, I don't own a complete set of 1/4" drive tools which go together.
Man you guys have some real awesome sets.
How do you guys feel about a homegrown set with a homemade case ?
Because that's currently what I've got, I don't own a complete set of 1/4" drive tools which go together.
Basic and "homegrown" stuff is cool -- gets the job done just as well as the fancy exclusive brands.
That's a nice set you made for yourself and you should be proud. All good stuff you have there.I need to locate a few more metric sockets and I'd like to come up with some better dividers if I don't find a better csse, but other than that it gets the job done pretty well.
It's taken me years to put together all this crap. But I only started after I had the basics covered and as the interest presented.
Man you guys have some real awesome sets.
How do you guys feel about a homegrown set with a homemade case ?
Because that's currently what I've got, I don't own a complete set of 1/4" drive tools which go together.
Basic and "homegrown" stuff is cool -- gets the job done just as well as the fancy exclusive brands.
I was talking about a set compiled together with whatever you've got around, as in it's not really a set because it's multiple brands that don't go together.Man you guys have some real awesome sets.
How do you guys feel about a homegrown set with a homemade case ?
Because that's currently what I've got, I don't own a complete set of 1/4" drive tools which go together.
Basic and "homegrown" stuff is cool -- gets the job done just as well as the fancy exclusive brands.
Yeah, nuts and bolts aren't brand loyal! :D
My weakness....1/4" drive socket sets...... ;DThat's an awesome comprehensive set that's pretty compact for what I'm sure it can tackle.
Took me a while to complete this Stevens Walden set.
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The ridiculously large SW ratchet adapter isn't a part of the set. Even by itself, it's so big, there's no way it could ever fit inside the box.
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Nice balancing act...lol. Obviously, way too much time on my hands.
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Side by side comparison with a 1/4" Snappy adapter.
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Two old Proto TAC sets.Wow, that's something I've never seen before and my mind is blown by it's coolness.
Here's my hodgpodge 1/4" setvery nice useable set you got there.
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The case / tray is the top to an index card file I picked up for 50¢, it happened to be an absolutely perfect fit for the tray for my toolbox so all I had to do was make some quick deviders.
The G code Craftsman metric sockets are the only thing that wouldn't quality as vintage.
The indestro ratchet and sockets should, as should the V code Craftsman sliding T and the circle V Craftsman spinner handle.
If the spinner handle looks a bit strange it's because I compacted it to fit in the case, I removed the handle drilled in deeper and reassembled.
... I think I recognize that long Plomb 1/4 extension.
Thanks.Here's my hodgpodge 1/4" setvery nice useable set you got there.
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The case / tray is the top to an index card file I picked up for 50¢, it happened to be an absolutely perfect fit for the tray for my toolbox so all I had to do was make some quick deviders.
The G code Craftsman metric sockets are the only thing that wouldn't quality as vintage.
The indestro ratchet and sockets should, as should the V code Craftsman sliding T and the circle V Craftsman spinner handle.
If the spinner handle looks a bit strange it's because I compacted it to fit in the case, I removed the handle drilled in deeper and reassembled.
Thanks.Here's my hodgpodge 1/4" setvery nice useable set you got there.
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The case / tray is the top to an index card file I picked up for 50¢, it happened to be an absolutely perfect fit for the tray for my toolbox so all I had to do was make some quick deviders.
The G code Craftsman metric sockets are the only thing that wouldn't quality as vintage.
The indestro ratchet and sockets should, as should the V code Craftsman sliding T and the circle V Craftsman spinner handle.
If the spinner handle looks a bit strange it's because I compacted it to fit in the case, I removed the handle drilled in deeper and reassembled.
Btw some really awesome sets are being posted, and the boxes alone are making me envious.
I don't know why but I really want my set to be in a nice professional looking box with a top so I can close it up if I ever need to take just it along.
I've got something but it's from a crappy 80's western auto JAPAN set I was given as a kid .
It's also got rounded corners making it not so easy to make dividers for.
It took me enough looking to eventually find that index card box I made this from, but that was when just the ratchet and sockets were my goal.Thanks.Here's my hodgpodge 1/4" setvery nice useable set you got there.
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The case / tray is the top to an index card file I picked up for 50¢, it happened to be an absolutely perfect fit for the tray for my toolbox so all I had to do was make some quick deviders.
The G code Craftsman metric sockets are the only thing that wouldn't quality as vintage.
The indestro ratchet and sockets should, as should the V code Craftsman sliding T and the circle V Craftsman spinner handle.
If the spinner handle looks a bit strange it's because I compacted it to fit in the case, I removed the handle drilled in deeper and reassembled.
Btw some really awesome sets are being posted, and the boxes alone are making me envious.
I don't know why but I really want my set to be in a nice professional looking box with a top so I can close it up if I ever need to take just it along.
I've got something but it's from a crappy 80's western auto JAPAN set I was given as a kid .
It's also got rounded corners making it not so easy to make dividers for.
Do this, start looking around at flea mkts and second hand shops and pawn shops for a 1/4" set box. Every so often they pop up. Transfer your set contents into any brand of commercial box and honestly, your set will look no different than any of the others posted here. Certainly your set will do everything any of the sets shown will do. The only thing that looks different to me is the box. Get a different box and you will see what I mean. Your set will look just like every other set in this thread. ;)
Sometimes it is amazing the difference you will feel about a set simply due to how it is stored.
Brazil was made by SK as a companion line.Interesting, I learn something new everyday.
I think that this 9/32" drive set might have originally started out as an M-57 designated set due to the inclusion of the carb sockets. There is another carb socket in this set, but for some reason it was in my pocket when I took the pics... ::)Real nice.
1932 catalog:
http://collectingsnapon.com/catalogs/catalogs.php?loggedin=0&catalogPage=256 (http://collectingsnapon.com/catalogs/catalogs.php?loggedin=0&catalogPage=256)
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I think for its age it's in pretty decent shape, but the set is missing a few pieces and the T-handle has a freakish break. The cool little ratchet has a '32 date code and all of the other pieces have '31 date codes.
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CRTDI - you are the King of 1/4 socket sets. I am but, your humble vassal my liege. 👍
CRTDI - you are the King of 1/4 socket sets. I am but, your humble vassal my liege. 👍
One of my all time favorite 1/4 sets. A large =v= series with lots of goodies. The =v= series is my favorite because the tools were high quality at an affordable price.I love my V code sliding T, it seems like a very well made tool.
Hi CRTDI - the only tool marked “Fleet” is the ratchet. All the others are only marked with a number and “Alloy”. But the reason I believe it’s an original set is that the socket numbers are sequential with the sizes up to 7/16.
CRTDI - you are the King of 1/4 socket sets. I am but, your humble vassal my liege. 👍
Hi CRTDI - the only tool marked “Fleet” is the ratchet. All the others are only marked with a number and “Alloy”. But the reason I believe it’s an original set is that the socket numbers are sequential with the sizes up to 7/16.
I have some Fleet stuff with only the "P-" prefixed part numbers as well. I assumed this denoted Penens, but I'm really not sure.CRTDI - you are the King of 1/4 socket sets. I am but, your humble vassal my liege. 👍
Cruiser, Thanks! I got nothing on you, your tool collections are simply amazing.
I love the color on that Challenger box.Hi CRTDI - the only tool marked “Fleet” is the ratchet. All the others are only marked with a number and “Alloy”. But the reason I believe it’s an original set is that the socket numbers are sequential with the sizes up to 7/16.
I have some Fleet stuff with only the "P-" prefixed part numbers as well. I assumed this denoted Penens, but I'm really not sure.CRTDI - you are the King of 1/4 socket sets. I am but, your humble vassal my liege. 👍
Cruiser, Thanks! I got nothing on you, your tool collections are simply amazing.
CRTDI - I believe you are right on the “P” stamp. I think Penens was the mother company and Fleet was simply a brand name. To make matters more confusing, check out this 50’s Challenger set.
The ratchet to me is the star of that set and I really like the set.
Brazil was made by SK as a companion line.
...- do you know if SK branded a ratchet for Brazil too?
Many thanks for all of the nice comments. I do like to share these sets with like minded people that can appreciate them for what they are.We love seeing these awesome tools, you're definitely not over posting.
It’s also very nice to see what others have to share, wether it’s a collector set or a true working set makes no difference. The evolution of these socket sets with all the different manufacturers is quite interesting to me.
My apologies to everybody here for my “over-posting” on this thread. After the great Photo Bucket debacle, the disappearance of original GG site and a recent personal computer crash, I’ve been trying to recover what I can and repost here.
Not as nice as crtdi's...lol...Looks like a nice set, I'm not I to bulky blow mould cases but overall it's a nice set.
But I recently snagged this Master Mechanic USA 1/4 set.
Non-QR RHFT, female drive spinner.
Very nice. Was there a connection between Action and Thorsen? The ratchets look similar.AA lists them as a budget line Thorsen introduced in 1957.
Dave,
Your Master Mechanic set appears to be Easco sourced. If so, should be a quality set..nice find!
Didn't Bonney and Herbrand get absorbed in to the Triangle Corporation?I was thinking Bon-e-con probably had to be a Bonney economy line, and if they merged with herbrand then my assumption could be correct.
Not as nice as crtdi's...lol...
But I recently snagged this Master Mechanic USA 1/4 set.
Non-QR RHFT, female drive spinner.
Wright Allied Set:
I bought this set brand new in the late 80s at Mill's Fleet Farm in Antigo Wisconsin. I forget what I paid for it, but this is a really nice little 1/4" set
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Anson
sweet set there, UB.
Didn't Bonney and Herbrand get absorbed in to the Triangle Corporation?I was thinking Bon-e-con probably had to be a Bonney economy line, and if they merged with herbrand then my assumption could be correct.
Wow just wow. That set is like new. The amber handles are almost always cracked or dark or both and the blue bands gone. That is a huge score.
Another Thorsen cousin, Giller.I wasn't sure if I'd want a spinner handle, breaker bar, and sliding T in my set but seeing this confirms that I'll have to include all of it.
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The Giller set is pristine. Nice example looks never used.
or stolen from centerpunch.......The Giller set is pristine. Nice example looks never used.
Well it was probably government surplus :))
or stolen from centerpunch.......
Another nice one. Did you do the cork?
hick, excellent job on configuring that Challenger box, looks like a real useful set.
slip knot, super nice sets, really digging the Williams stuff, especially the first set. Do you believe the ratchet to be part of this set originally? Is this M310 set 9/32” drive?
Honestly I'm not sure. I picked it up a while back but haven't spent much time researching what should be in it.
hick, excellent job on configuring that Challenger box, looks like a real useful set.Thanks.
slip knot, super nice sets, really digging the Williams stuff, especially the first set. Do you believe the ratchet to be part of this set originally? Is this M310 set 9/32” drive?
Holy smokes - I almost fell off my chair seeing that Bonney set!
Those packing gland and king valve sockets are not easy to come by. NOS in a complete set is unheard of! Wow!
Here's a pic out of my 1986 catalog (basically unchanged since 1967) of the basic 20 piece reefer set. Your ratchet wrench looks different, though. But it should give you an idea of what came in that set.
Holy smokes - I almost fell off my chair seeing that Bonney set!
Those packing gland and king valve sockets are not easy to come by. NOS in a complete set is unheard of! Wow!
Here's a pic out of my 1986 catalog (basically unchanged since 1967) of the basic 20 piece reefer set. Your ratchet wrench looks different, though. But it should give you an idea of what came in that set.
That's really interesting, looks like this set was produced for quite a while. Thanks for the catalog pic!
here is my hit the road 1/4 box set. all sk except the matco box, snap-on handle in the top, snap-on spinner/extension in the bottom and williams flex head. all sae in the top with metric in the bottom and a few sae deeps that don't fit in the top.Now that's an awesome setup for an all out 1/4" set, seems you've practically got everything but the kitchen sink in there.
I have always wanted one of those type boxes. Count me green with envy!+1
here is my hit the road 1/4 box set. all sk except the matco box, snap-on handle in the top, snap-on spinner/extension in the bottom and williams flex head. all sae in the top with metric in the bottom and a few sae deeps that don't fit in the top.
I thought the Penncraft looked great and then the NB knocked me out - that looks NOS. What a terrific collection you have.
I like the crisp rectangular cases for how they fit in a tool box, but those New Britain boxes with the rounded corners sure would slip in a pocket much better.
Thanks for the nice comments!I'll bet they're not, but they do look nice.I like the crisp rectangular cases for how they fit in a tool box, but those New Britain boxes with the rounded corners sure would slip in a pocket much better.
hick, I believe this same style box was used for most of the manufacturers that sourced New Britain 1/4” drive sets at some point. I like the rounded edge design as well, but I can tell you that they’re not very good for stacking on top of one another, especially after they’ve been cleaned up.
Cruiser that is magnificent. Looks like it was just bought new.Looks like a display with wrenches hanging off of if.
Whats the wood panel with the Proto logo?
:)) glad to be back Harlan!
:)) glad to be back Harlan!
we'll take ya!
nice not be having to look over your shoulder for the pc police isn't it?
Nice sets there Cruiser, you been holding out on us.
This is the Williams 1/4 inch set that I received in our secret Santa gift exchange about 3 years back. Wrote down the sender and it is in my notebook. Took this right after receiving, got a little grease on it now. I know Williams is owned by Snapon now
Here's a little MAC box I've had for a while. I'm just picking up pieces to fill it as I find them. There's couple of non MAC ratchets in the mix here as well.
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CRDTI & H&S,
The Sears Companion 1/4" drive set is pretty sweet and unusual. I believe these sets were made by Western Forge (i.e. WF) for Sears. Western Forge is best known for their Craftsman screwdrivers, pliers, punches, chisels, adjustable wrenches, ignition tools, brake tools, and etc.
CRDTI & H&S,That would make perfect sense.
The Sears Companion 1/4" drive set is pretty sweet and unusual. I believe these sets were made by Western Forge (i.e. WF) for Sears. Western Forge is best known for their Craftsman screwdrivers, pliers, punches, chisels, adjustable wrenches, ignition tools, brake tools, and etc.
Now I know why I can never find a nice 1/4" set in a metal box. Cruiser808 and CRDTI have snagged them all and squirreled them away.
And these are just the sets they collect, I can only imagine what their user sets look like.Now I know why I can never find a nice 1/4" set in a metal box. Cruiser808 and CRDTI have snagged them all and squirreled them away.
They do seem to have the market cornered.
I just joined this morning, although I am a member on some other sites. I have a 1/4” drive fetish and tend towards WW2 vintage sets although I have some newer stuff in various brands. My pictures will be pretty random.
-Don
An old Husky set. It came with a little cross bar and card.
Two early Plomb sets from 1940 and 1941. I especially like these sets because the date codes on the tools all match, making me guess the sets are all original from the factory.
Snap-on prices have gotten ridiculous. Fortunately, I traded for my 9/32” set. Here is my last batch of pictures (for now)
-Don
Thanks, slip knot. I would expect similar sets to go on eBay between $60.00 and $120.00 depending on condition and how complete they are. I’m missing a small screwdriver bit which I’m having trouble finding.Snap-on prices have gotten ridiculous. Fortunately, I traded for my 9/32” set. Here is my last batch of pictures (for now)
-Don
What do sets like the one you showed fetch now?
Those SK 1/4" palm ratchets are the best. I have had mine since the 1980's and have always prized it greatly. Best under dash ratchet ever IMHO
d42, Very coool looking collection! My apologies for breaking up your pic posting with my thread reply on the previous page.That was a fortunate eBay pick up. It’s a set specifically made for the Navy that I keep in my NAF toolbox. Here are some more pictures. The tools should be marked with NAF numbers but those are incredibly rare.
One of the Plomb sets you posted is in what looks like an original light colored grey box. Is this a special contract or specific military set?
One of the Plomb sets you posted is in what looks like an original light colored grey box. Is this a special contract or specific military set?That was a fortunate eBay pick up. It’s a set specifically made for the Navy that I keep in my NAF toolbox. Here are some more pictures. The tools should be marked with NAF numbers but those are incredibly rare.
-Don
I really should get off my duff and take some pictures of my Bonney 1/4" stuff.
Very nice sets H&S. I’m really liking that Indestro ratchet. How is it working for you?Thanks, it took a bit of figuring to get the smaller set how I wanted it, I had to figure out which wrenches to take out and of course I had to make the little spinner handle.
I really like the ratchet in the set on right in the light silver box.
Pre war economy Plomb sets. No ratchet included. According to my research, Plomb offered 1/4 ratchets in 1938 4795 Plomb 1/4 sets. But, these sets shown here are most likely post 1938 , but pre war and according to the catalogs, did not include the newly offered ratchets to save costs and offer a low cost alternative.Smaller sets without the ratchet included were common during that time period. I have early sets from several manufacturers that don’t include ratchets.
Pre war economy Plomb sets. No ratchet included. According to my research, Plomb offered 1/4 ratchets in 1938 4795 Plomb 1/4 sets. But, these sets shown here are most likely post 1938 , but pre war and according to the catalogs, did not include the newly offered ratchets to save costs and offer a low cost alternative.
And if it is not to Corny!
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I know it is missing a few sockets, but I am not sure what else, as I have never seen a catalog from that era.
You guys just knock me out.
Cruiser I have seen that odd P&C ratchet before. I like it.
This thread needs more Proto Empire!
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Cruiser, yours and CRTDI's seem like new! Mine have that rough around the edges look, the lived-in feel.
here is a set that goes together. indestro ignition and 1/4 drive sets. picked these up in about 1981 or 2. i was high school at the time and they were surplus from the local trade/tech school.
Here are some P&C sets from four decades. The oldest one is from the late 40’s. What seems to be unusual is the ratchet. The paddle handle is reminiscent of Plomb WF 9/32 ratchets of WWII, but the head looks like the Plomb pebble ratchet.
The set in the blue case is from the 50’s and the ratchet and the breaker bar Have a different type of handle.
By the 60’s P&C changed the ratchet all together with a Thorsen type design before Proto discontinued the brand.
And if it is not to Corny!
I know it is missing a few sockets, but I am not sure what else, as I have never seen a catalog from that era.
Really like the Cornwell set. I don’t see many of those here in Hawaii. In fact, I haven’t seen any 1/4 sets in the wild.
What is it with Cornwell? They are an old company, and they seem to make pretty good stuff and have a decent following. Yet I rarely see them in the wild, and I don't even see their trucks that often (compared to Snap-On and Matco at least). Do they just not advertize or what?And I rarely even hear their name come up.
What is it with Cornwell? They are an old company, and they seem to make pretty good stuff and have a decent following. Yet I rarely see them in the wild, and I don't even see their trucks that often (compared to Snap-On and Matco at least). Do they just not advertize or what?And I rarely even hear their name come up.
What is it with Cornwell? They are an old company, and they seem to make pretty good stuff and have a decent following. Yet I rarely see them in the wild, and I don't even see their trucks that often (compared to Snap-On and Matco at least). Do they just not advertize or what?
the first rule of cornwell.........there is no cornwell..... :-X
Hi CRTDI - I too have that Easco set. But I have the 1104 instead of the 1103 in your set. Frankly, I’d prefer the 1103, but I take what I can get. I also have a rather unconventional Easco 1/4 set with a ratcheting screwdriver. It’s in this plastic bubble case. I recall Sears sold this ratcheting screwdriver, but I never grabbed one. By the time I decided I was going to buy one, Sears discontinued selling them and Easco was gone. Fortunately, I found this one on eBay several years ago for a decent price.Now both those sets are very cool.
Thanks H&S. I appreciate your kind words. Also, we should all thank CRTDI for taking the time to share his fabulous collection. I mostly stick to Proto Empire Tools and would not have even bothered to show the Easco tools if it hadn’t been for him. CRTDI keeps this thread humming.Definitely keep posting what you've got, and I hope he does as well.
Will do, Steve. You’re the boss.
Will do, Steve. You’re the boss.
Will do, Steve. You’re the boss.
Yeah, he has a plaque on his desk that says,"Here's the Boss"......with an arrow that points toward his wife. ;D
Will do, Steve. You’re the boss.
Yeah, he has a plaque on his desk that says,"Here's the Boss"......with an arrow that points toward his wife. ;D
I see you've been here. She never lets me forget it either.
Hi CRTDI - I too have that Easco set. But I have the 1104 instead of the 1103 in your set. Frankly, I’d prefer the 1103, but I take what I can get. I also have a rather unconventional Easco 1/4 set with a ratcheting screwdriver.
A little Easco set I have, don't remember if I posted already or not.
That set is a beauty.
I am pleasantly surprised at how many of these Plomb sets turn up.
Outstanding CRTDI. Yours is a 1940 Plomb set in mint condition. I really love these early Plomb sets, the first being 1935. I believe your 1940 ratchet was the first gear change over from the the removable gear drive versions. I’ll post one tomorrow.I’m curious about how you dated that set at 1940? Although the tools are early (I thought I saw some ‘41 date codes), I would have guessed at the red box being postwar.
What is it with Cornwell? They are an old company, and they seem to make pretty good stuff and have a decent following. Yet I rarely see them in the wild, and I don't even see their trucks that often (compared to Snap-On and Matco at least). Do they just not advertize or what?
They keep a very low profile and will only sell through the dealers. They won't sell to you even if you don't have a dealer. I see ratchets at the swaps on occasion and once in a great while a wrench or socket but almost never a set. There was a Cornwell dealer at Long Beach a couple times but I think he was liquidating.
It seems SK is correct
the first rule of cornwell.........there is no cornwell..... :-X
Your right Don. Upon further inspection, the ratchet is 1941 vintage. From that, I’m convinced the set is from 1941. My old eyes aren’t what they used to be. I’ll post my 1940 set again showing the ratchet design for that and earlier years. The red boxes of that style were all pre war. I’ll post some red boxes of the post war period up to 1947 - 1948 as well as sets from 1935. And I’ll describe the subtle differences in the sets based on the Plomb catalogs. If what I describe is wrong, please let me know. Thanks.I appreciate the information. Thanks!
Your right Don. Upon further inspection, the ratchet is 1941 vintage. From that, I’m convinced the set is from 1941.
Here are some very early Plomb 1/4 sets. As shown on the photos, from upper left to bottom right are 1935, 1936, 1937 and 1938. Based on a review of the catalogs, I believe 1935 was the year of Plomb’s first 1/4 drive tools and 1938 was Plomb’s introduction to 1/4 ratchets. Plomb also offered midget wrenches and pliers as part of the sets.
The tools generally came in 4795 boxes and the early ones did not have a raised lip on the upper cover. I think the lip appears in the boxes made in 1939 and beyond with a brief exception in the late years of WWII.
I think the rounded corners are the last Plomb models, as the Proto LA boxes had rounded corners. I think this pic should show the progression:Your right Don. Upon further inspection, the ratchet is 1941 vintage. From that, I’m convinced the set is from 1941.
Nice...really wasn't expecting this set to be so early.Here are some very early Plomb 1/4 sets. As shown on the photos, from upper left to bottom right are 1935, 1936, 1937 and 1938. Based on a review of the catalogs, I believe 1935 was the year of Plomb’s first 1/4 drive tools and 1938 was Plomb’s introduction to 1/4 ratchets. Plomb also offered midget wrenches and pliers as part of the sets.
The tools generally came in 4795 boxes and the early ones did not have a raised lip on the upper cover. I think the lip appears in the boxes made in 1939 and beyond with a brief exception in the late years of WWII.
Thanks for the education on these! Really like the plug ratchet and wrench set.
I'm Plomb stupid... :-[ So...my stupid question is.... Where do the rounded corner boxes fit into the history here? I always just assumed these were either very early or war time examples.
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And with a few extras..
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Uncle Buck does your father still have that set?
The Hella stickers are cut from the brand of oil sold a VW specialists here. Its a dumb joke I like too much.
I repainted both boxes blue from rusty bare saving only the interior of the CM box as original. I am sure the Hella box was once Indestro labeled.
Bottom feeding on the lowest grade stuff allows me to change things a bit and not reduce value. Rust pits and damaged stuff is cheap.
Hi H&S, it took quite a while for me to put it together. You can put together the same thing by being patient and persistent. Check all the swap meets, garage sales, Craig’s list and eBay. With time, you’ll be there. It’s fun too. Good luck to you, my friend.I may eventually want a larger more inclusive set at some point, and when I do this may be the kind of set I come up with.
Hickory n Steel sent me this 9/32dr Plomb extension so my CM midget set doesn't look incomplete anymore. It is a WF-5 and 5-1/2" OAL and has a small capital "A" after the "5" which I imagine is the date code. This will fill in until I locate the elusive Craftsman C-95 6" extension. Thanks HnS.Good to see it make an appearance, and I'm glad it'll make a good filler for now.
The Kraueter is an interesting design but in all honesty not the most comfortable to use especially for long periods of time.Is the handle fluted down the center or something ?
The Kraueter is an interesting design but in all honesty not the most comfortable to use especially for long periods of time.Is the handle fluted down the center or something ?
That doesn't sound too comfortable, I'd probably put a piece of tubing over it.The Kraueter is an interesting design but in all honesty not the most comfortable to use especially for long periods of time.Is the handle fluted down the center or something ?
Yes and I don't really care to use the 3/8 ratchet I have.
Is the handle fluted down the center or something ?
Many of my sets are totally made from an empty box and collected tools. I spend a lot of time checking the old catalogs for accuracy.
-Don
Whenever I start to complain about the older Craftsman ratchet handles I remember the Krauter's and button my lip.
Which ain't easy for an old cranky Pollack. :D
One of use needs to come up with a custom-made grooved sleeve that every Krauter owner can buy and slip on.
Here is an RTEC 1/4” spinner I sent to a friend for his set. It was unmarked but matched the spinner in other Randolph sets. Somewhere I have a pair of ignition pliers.I found the ignition pliers. Here are a couple of pictures.
-Don
... Here's my Challenger set...and sure enough all the pieces are marked as Pennens too.
The gentleman that ended up with that amazing set, “Tin Medic”, is a buddy of mine and we were in communication during the bidding process. He actually is the one that alerted me to the eBay listing of the one I have. In case he was unsuccessful in buying it, I took pictures of the set and the extremely rare NAF marked tools that it contained, missing only the 3/8” socket. Here are those pictures.
d42jeep - on Oct. 4 (post #260) you posted your Plomb NAF set. Curious as to whether you saw what that one recently went for on Ebay.
Do you think you've got enough Walden sets there?
CRTDI - on August 30 (post #75) - those "Brazil" sets are fabulous! I do not believe I've ever seen any 1/4" sets that were complete. And if those weren't cool enough, you follow up with a "Nuggies" set in a perfect box! You seem to have managed to acquire some fabulous examples - too many to mention.
Thanks! The Nuggies set tested the outer limits of my OCD... :( It is one of my favs though.
On Sept. 22 (post #187) you posted a New Britain made Penncraft set containing two 3632 ratchets. I have one of those sets - complete with spinner handle - and one partial set containing only a few sockets. I'm curious as to whether or not you've ever seen a catalog illustration of that particular set which might show exactly what it contained originally.
I don't have a catalog reference for this particular set. Sometimes you just got to wing it.
On Oct. 1 (post #225) you posted a couple "Companion" sets. Has anyone figured out who made that 1/4" drive open-gear ratchet? It is definitely not the same as the Thorsen 77M. (I don't own any P&C so I can't make a comparison here.) Mr. Lauver posits it may have been outsourced from Western Forge. It does not look anything like the Indestro model 6070 that Uncle Buck speculates on. (photo below)
On that second set with all the ignition wrenches, screwdriver, and feeler gauges - was that original or was that cobbled together like that?
That ratchet in my opinion, has some characteristics of a Thorsen, P&C and Indestro, but not produced by any of these manufacturers. Mr. Lauver is quite knowledegable in the Craftsman outsourced area.....so I'm going with his idea for now.
All of the Companion ignition items were added to that second set. Sometimes a little extra compliments the overall set.
On Oct. 1 (post #226) you posted a "Blue Grass" set. The model 2400 ratchet is definitely Wright - I have at least one set with that fat-handled re-branded Wright 2400 in it (although I cannot recall at the moment what brand. see the "Powr Kraft" set on the previous page.) The box looks almost like the New Britain made Penncraft box.
Yep, I believe this is the same rounded corner New Britain box that's been used for so many 1/4" sets. A good portion of my 1/4" sets seem to be New Britain derived with the same exact box.
The gentleman that ended up with that amazing set, “Tin Medic”, is a buddy of mine and we were in communication during the bidding process. He actually is the one that alerted me to the eBay listing of the one I have. In case he was unsuccessful in buying it, I took pictures of the set and the extremely rare NAF marked tools that it contained, missing only the 3/8” socket. Here are those pictures.
d42jeep - on Oct. 4 (post #260) you posted your Plomb NAF set. Curious as to whether you saw what that one recently went for on Ebay.
Do you think you've got enough Walden sets there?
-Don
PS.... I may have a slight Walden set problem. I am continually on the search for a dark finish, knurled, 6 point 7/16” socket that I know exists but have been unable to locate.
I am kind of all over the map especially with 1/4 drive.
Here's the Penncraft set and the partial set. Mine includes a 3635 yellow-handled spinner handle with a square socket built into the butt end of it so it can be used as an extension:
Hi bmwrd0 - there are a few box types in between. I’ll post them soon.
Nice looking Penncraft sets. This is the first time for me to see this particular spinner handle. Is it really that big? It appears to just barely fit in the set.
Cruiser808 - I have no clue about vintage on that 1/4" Stevens Walden set. I do know that Walden was advertising them as early as 1944, as can be seen in the 1944 Motor Service magazine ad below. The early sets, however, were (for the most part, as I understand) plain steel finish, and the spinner handle was black and yellow (as can be seen in member d42jeep's examples above.)I wish I could be of more help but my primary interest is wartime tools. My best guess on your set would be ‘60s or ‘70s. Most of the postwar sets I see are in red boxes still hinged on the end but I see that four.cycle has several colors. Here is the postwar set that we keep in the kitchen closet and a similar ad to four.cycle’s.
Later they were offered in a variety of configurations - with different contents - as can be seen in the later catalog snip below. Unfortunately I do not have any idea what year that catalog was printed, but based on the graphics and font styles and the yellow handle on the spinner, my best wild guess would be 1960s (or possibly 1970s.)
(* Note that the 1944 "Migit" later became "Midget" *)
I have 1/4" Walden sets in that style box (that hinges at the end) in royal blue, red, forest green, and (presumably repainted) black. I may have one or two in that "Pontiac blue" hammertone, but I'm not sure. I know for sure I have 3/8" and 1/2" Walden sets in that color box, but again, I have no idea as to vintage.
Member d42jeep has been collecting Walden far longer than I have, and perhaps he has better insight as to vintage.
On the Williams set, I can offer nothing. I own an empty box similar to that, but I believe mine is from a model 1285. I picked it up because I thought the graphics inside the lid were fabulous. Williams is one brand I have not delved into thus far.
Snappy and SK thumb ratchet sets. I like the SK ratchet better than the Snappy. Just has a lot smoother action.
I am continually on the search for a dark finish, knurled, 6 point 7/16” socket that I know exists but have been unable to locate.
another (of probably far too many) Duro Chrome / Indestro 1/4" drive sets - this one's in an early Duro Chrome box, but unless I'm mistaken it's not a box for a 1/4" drive set. The sockets, like the set above are "D I" series.Duro had two sizes of boxes that they used for the 1/4” drive sets. Both the large and small boxes are correct. Here a few sets with D-I sockets and Duro or Indestro drive tools.
Thanks. I took a close look. Email on the way!Quote from: d42jeepI am continually on the search for a dark finish, knurled, 6 point 7/16” socket that I know exists but have been unable to locate.
Take a look at that second Walden set I posted on the previous page - post #428 - I noticed all the sockets in that set are 6-points, but they're not "knurled" like some other Walden pieces.
A U.S. made Truecraft 1/4" drive SAE set. The sockets are all 1/4" square drive. The bits are all 1/4" hex drive. The reversible ratcheting driver handle (with a storage compartment in the handle) and all the sockets are marked "U.S.A.". The bits have no markings other than their sizes.That ratchet driver looks Western Forge to me, they made this exact driver with Craftsman handles Husky handles and I'm sure many others.
Can't seem to post a pic from my phone or iPad so will try again later.
CRTDI - thanks. The Firestone set was definitely an indulgence. I figured I got lucky on that one - it appears to be all there and it's in excellent condition (other than the exterior of the box.)Here's my WF bit driver, it originally had a fat rubberized Husky pro handle in it which I replaced with a Craftsman 4337.
As for the blow-molded cases: I am certainly no fan of that style box. As you note, they waste a lot of space, and (for the most part) they don't allow the user to add anything to the set (although I noticed that S-K started making little pockets for "extras" in some of their later-production sets.) There's nothing quite like being able to "customize" your own set depending upon your own individual needs. (see photo below)
Another issue is that they're inevitably prone to failure: hinges break, latches fail.
That said, they are what they are - and most of those above are the original boxes the sets came in, so I prefer to leave them that way. Fortunately I've been able to round up dozens of metal boxes for those sets I have which are loose pieces.
hickory and Steel - interesting observation on that Truecraft driver set. Western Forge would not have occurred to me. I was quite surprised to find a U.S. made item with the Truecraft brand name on it, as my understanding previously was that all of their product line was outsourced from offshore. I don't have a Craftsman driver of that sort, so I cannot make a visual comparison. The action (as I recall) was fairly nice - as with several others above, it appears to have seen little or no use. I've grabbed it a few times recently when I got a call for some simple repair job - it was actually nice to work with.
d42jeep - thanks very much. I don't feel so bad now about my own obsession with Walden. I might have about six or eight of those 1/4" sets, but nowhere near twenty!
It must be something about the brand or the name. For reasons which defy explanation, I think I have three PM21 3/8" drive sets - the one with the wonky male-to-male "extension" that uses the female-to-female "connector".
CRTDI - as I noted above, the best box is the one in which you can add what you need to have. This old 7602 Indestro set kind of grew a life of its own over the last four decades - this is my go-to user set:
Another try from my laptopReal nice set, glad you were persistent and got it posted.
Here is an early Craftsman set missing, of course, the crossbar.
-Don
^ interesting holder there, d42jeep. any idea what year that dates to? what year is that catalog snip from?BK,
Here's an Indestro 1/4" drive SAE set in a model 7602 box, but the contents do not match what the catalog says it should contain.BK,
The red box, as I noted somewhere above, dates back to the mid-late 1950s. Prior to that the 1/4" drive sets were packed in a blue box.
This set contains the "unobtainium" 2889 reversible 1/4" male drive pressed-flange chromed ratchet with knurled round handle - a miniature version of the 1/2" drive 3201 (both built under patent number 1902878.) The set is missing the spinner (which in this case would have been the early clear yellow-handled model 2873.)
(* Note that the 3/16" chromed socket is stamped "D I", belying the myth that all Duro / Indestro product stamped "D I" was wartime vintage. *)
Hi CRTDI, thanks for the kind words. Yup, left to right and top to bottom.
Hi Steve, you got it. It's easy for the early Plombs. Like Snap-on, Plomb put year dates up to 1941. Actually, I found some early 1942 sockets with a number stamp. But, most of the war years had letters stamped on them. TWERSTY did the research and found that the letters coincided with the years, B=1942, C=1943, and so on. For the 1/4 sets, 1944 and 1945 rarely had markings, but the designs are giveaways. Also, the square edge Plomb boxes during the war had some nasty, ugly, sticky paint that will probably never die. Then came the round edge boxes. After the end of the war, the tools were chrome again and the tool boxes were coated with red paint and new logos. During the transition to Proto, the tool design remained consistent with the last Plomb sets. Moving on to early Proto, the Flying Lady was painted on all the Proto boxes. They also remained the same design from the Plomb years.Thanks for the pictures and the information. Very helpful.
Snappy black band metric set.That's an awesome looking set, I've got relatively minimal experience compared to everyone else here but having combo wrenches in a 1/4" set is just an idea I like.
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Speedmaster set with a very odd gearless ratchet. I'm thinking the tools might Wright or Stevens Walden sourced, just not sure... :-[Real nice set there, I ( and probably a lot of people ) typically think of gearless ratchets as a very modern thing, but obviously they're not.
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The black bands are my all time favorite socket and in my mind very desirable. Beautiful set looks completely unused.
I have a 1/4 and 3/8 shallow six point sets and miscellaneous single pieces.
The box definitely looks less than ideal , but it seems like a nice set overall.
That P&C set looks nice, I really like the looks of that ratchet.
The Cornwall deeps a few post back seem really beefy for a 1//4 drive set. bet they didn't have to warranty any of those. ;D
I find it interesting the plastic box is considered one piece of the set!
Even many sets available today do this.Quote from: Lookin4_67GalaxieConvI find it interesting the plastic box is considered one piece of the set!
That's true of almost all US-made sets from that era - from the 60's through the 80's at least.
One of my all time favorite 1/4 sets. A large =v= series with lots of goodies. The =v= series is my favorite because the tools were high quality at an affordable price.that is a assume Craftsman set never seen one like it
Mine just arrived and it was just as nice as I hoped.Can't wait to see one of these sets with all of the cosmoline cleaned off
-Don
I like the way that box came out - well done!Thanks.
That box looks pretty well stocked and very nice job you did on it.Thank you.
A couple of 1/4 drive Blackhawk 16ND sets:Awesome sets, thanks for digging this up and posting so I don't have to dig it up.
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Thanks. Good luck with your set build.Got the deep wells in today and my kit is now complete, I'll have to post pictures tomorrow though because I also got a 1963 Mitchell 300 spinning reel in and burned up all my daylight after work using the kit servicing this reel.
I always liked those "party boxes" as you called it. I never found one priced well enough for me to take it home sadly.I wonder what kind of model# they'd have if they didn't come with a poker set inside?
That is a very nice set of tools and tool box.Thank you.
I normally don't go after sets since I'm just going to yank the ratchet out and probably lose the rest somewhere in the garage, but couldn't pass up the None Better set - didn't have one of these old school 1/4" NB "mini club" style ratchets in the obsess... er, collection yet. Too many of these (Cr, New Brit, & Husky for the other 3) are missing the square drive, and that's an immediate reject for me. Likely missing a 1/2" socket and maybe a short ext, will have to do a little detectin' and see if I can find a catalog with set descrip.
Didn't have the Wright-sourced Klein ratchet either, so getting the like new sockets & ext with the ratchet was a bonus. Unfortunately missing at least a 5/16" socket, but I won't lose any sleep over it...
The hammered look came out great! :cool2:Thanks.
The 9/32 stuff in this thread.....Ww2 era, intended to discourage GI mechanics from taking tools home.
I was wondering if anyone knows the history of 9/32" tools? The reason I ask is decades ago, I was once told by an old timer, that they were war era tools, so the enemy couldn't use them on their stuff, if captured.
9/32 was the original small format drive in the 20's or early 30's. 1/4 came along later.Thanks for the info.
Private industry used it to discourage tools going home in the lunchbox beyond the time it was discounted from the catalogs. Not sure but in my mind if the military continued to use beyond the introduction of 1/4 it was probably for the same reason.
9/32 was the original small format drive in the 20's or early 30's. 1/4 came along later.
Private industry used it to discourage tools going home in the lunchbox beyond the time it was discounted from the catalogs. Not sure but in my mind if the military continued to use beyond the introduction of 1/4 it was probably for the same reason.
Elroy is original owner, over 50 yearsQuality is remembered, long after the price is forgotten !!!
Elroy is original owner, over 50 years
That's not as bad as a Mac box with all Craftsman tools and a Craftsman sticker.Elroy is original owner, over 50 years
I like those sets so much that I bought a couple of those kit boxes a few years back myself. I filled my red box a twin to that one with Snappy ratchet, nutdriver, breakover, speed wheel, sliding T and flex head. The extensions and sockets are Cman though.
I just pretend the sockets and extensions are Snappy. LOL :))
That's not as bad as a Mac box with all Craftsman tools and a Craftsman sticker.Elroy is original owner, over 50 years
I like those sets so much that I bought a couple of those kit boxes a few years back myself. I filled my red box a twin to that one with Snappy ratchet, nutdriver, breakover, speed wheel, sliding T and flex head. The extensions and sockets are Cman though.
I just pretend the sockets and extensions are Snappy. LOL :))
You still got some Snappy tools in the box at least.